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30 May 2008 @ 11:58 am
Lost 4x13-14 There's No Place Like Home  
Okay. There is MASSIVE amount of squeeage under the cut. Especially of the Desmond kind. I warned.

TEAM FLASHFORWARD

1. NIRVANA!JACK IS BACK! Well, this time he was Pixies!Jack, but I'll keep the Nirvana. Sounds better and I like Nirvana better. Though it's awesome that the more wasted Jack is the better his musical taste gets. I love Nirvana!Jack something fierce even if I should hate that he is like that. And I hate it and it breaks my heart but I can't help loving him. Though that beard is still hideous. Dear wig department, you lose. Nirvana!Jack lovingly yours, Janie.

2. OMGSAYID. SAYIDOMG. Always with that absolutely HOT look but more disheveled. Like he stopped straightening his hair. And angsty and teaming up with Hurley? God. I squeed in that scene like woah. Sayid, you're made of EPIC WIN and I love you. Devotedly and endlessly and faithfully yours, Janie.

3. Hurley plays chess with Mr. Eko, huh?

Okay, seems like I'll be writing some dead!Boone meets Hurley soon.

4. That speaking, where the fuck can I download the ehanced version? I need to see Jack speaking about Boone. Please. Give me that at least.

5. Future!Kate -> blah. I can see why she treats Jack that way, I mean, after 4x10 I can see it, but why the fuck doesn't she want to come back? Locke surely would have told her Sawyer was alive, right? And WTF with Claire? Alive? Dead? Meh, I give up.

6. I hope Sun is not working with Widmore. I so hope not. And I hope Mr. Bentham spoke with her, too.

7. God, Ben, what should I make with you? You confuse me. So Ben can't actually go back to the island, right? And when it moved, he was teleported in the desert, right?

8. LOCKE WAS IN THE COFFIN? wtf. I was terrified it was going to be Desmond, IDK why, but well, wasn't. Thankfully. And before someone resuscitates him (because they'll do it, surely), I'm so writing dead!Locke meets dead!Boone. Yes, I've been referencing Boone three times since the start and he wasn't even in the episode. So?

9. Okay, WTF. Jack didn't seem surprised that Ben was there though.

TEAM YAY ISLAND/CHOPPER PART 1

10. Frank owns. Seriously.

11. Beginning sequence -> massive Jack/Sawyer slashing.

12. Sawyer + Hurley > love.

13. Sayid + Richard pwning Keamy was THE BEST THING EVER. So much love for it. So much love. Keamy, you don't know who you're fucking with, oh no.

14. So Sawyer actually did want to go away.

15. Uhm, and that was a spectacular kiss? *scratches head* I mean, the S/K. It was a good kiss but spectacular? I don't think so.

16. God. Sawyer jumping down killed me. He just killed me. He's just grown so much as a character and I love him. I love him so. *cries*

17. JULIET! GOD NO JULIET! *cries* at least they can get drunk together on the beach. Hey, they're both alive at least.

18. Shirtless!Sawyer -> oh yeeeeeesss.

TEAM WE'RE THE NEW PEOPLE AND WE STAY

19. I claim that Dan was sucked back on the island with Steve, Tracy and the other redshirts. Because he needs to be sweethearts with Charlotte.

20. She was BORN there?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

21. I think Miles has a crush on Shannon. Just sayin'.

22. Rose > everyone.

TEAM HALF AWESOME + 2/CHOPPER PART 2

23. Oh Desmond. Sure, you studied how to handle bombs in the army. But you so were not cut for it, m'darling. So not. But I love you anyway.

24. Meh, I wish they used Michael more this season.

25. JIN!!!! Well, I deny that. I deny that. I DENY it. Shit, couldn't he have just followed Desmond outside? If the bomb expert doesn't know a thing, I guess you can't either, right? God, WHY? But I think he's alive.

26. As I think Mike is. Has to do with the dead Shephard presence, but I'll speculate further down.

27. OMG Desmond telling them not to land and Sayid deciphering what he said? Best thing ever. My cult ship is always massive love.

28. God Sun. Sun. She broke my heart. I thought she was really going to jump down. And I don't think it's Jack's fault, at least not all of it.

29. I wouldn't have ever bet on Desmond being on that chopper but well. He was. And I'm darn glad for it. The list/Charlie/lack of guilt business still bugs me and I don't like that they seemingly forgot it, but point is, I think it was a very bad writing choice that affected everyone except Hurley, not only him. At this point I'll curse the writers, hope they do something about it next season and meanwhile enjoy what they give me. I couldn't not love him at this point, I think.

TEAM IT'S ALL ABOUT BUNNIES

30. Meh. Locke and Jack have been having exactly the same conversation since White Rabbit. And Ben totally wants to marry Locke.

31. So Locke is the new Others chief? Yay. Maybelline NY seemed totally okay with it.

32. Keamy, I hated you and I'm darn glad you bit it. When he spoke about Alex... geez. Sorry. But Ben sacrificing everyone proving the exactly opposite point of the one he wanted to prove in Kevin Johnson? Aaaaaaaargh. Well, my opnions stay where they are. I don't trust Ben period. And what he was doing with all that metal? He wanted to break the Orchid? Meeeeeeeeeh.

33. Island moving and stuff = I give up. I didn't understand a thing about it and didn't even care.

and finally, TEAM RAFT + TEAM PENNY WIDMORE ALWAYS SAVES YOUR LIFE

34. When the chopper was down and they did CPR on Desmond with Jack and Sayid bringing him up?

GOD I was terrified. The breath of relief I gave out when he breathed again? Immense. *squishes Desmond* Not to talk about the total slashiness of the CPR or of Sayid calling out Desmond at some point.

35. I was spoiled for the Live Together Die Alone guy being in the episode so I was just hoping for it to happen and... god it did.

It did happen and I was sort of crying. God the reunion. THE REUNION. That was a darn spectacular kiss. ALL THE FUCKING WAY. Their faces at seeing each other? God. God. God. Even better than the phone call. They're still not my official OTP because I won't ever admit to have one and I want to keep them together but god, that was shipper satisfaction. I still can't believe it. They looked so happy and just.. just... *cries* and well, Desmond is out with Penny? I'm darn glad for it. I won't get into another rambling longer than this post and I'm getting repetitive but oh Desmond, I love you so and the way you introduced her... god. LOL at when he was like 'and this was Sayid, my temporary freighter boyfriend'. Yeah, sorry, I can't avoid that. And he's off! Are they hiding? What's going to happen? I can't wait to see how it plays out. I think he's bound to go back, too, but maybe with her, if that HBO shitty show doesn't steal the actress much longer, yes? Oh well, I'll just enjoy it for the next nine months.

36. The Des/Jack conversation in the end was LOVE. I always loved the connection between those two and was almighty pissed that they seemingly forgot that they had it, so Jack telling Desmond his catch sentence just made me so happy. I hope it doesn't mean that something awful is going to happen because it damn well could, but well, I'm not considering that.

37. Sayid and Jack in their rescued shirts -> love.

38. Penny was adorable. Totally adorable. So she knows about the hoax. Interesting.

SPECULATION

39. Christian was on the freighter. I think it means something.

40. IDK how Michael could have survived that explosion (Jin was on deck so he probably had more chances), but well, I think they are both alive. My two cents?

41. Locke seemingly spoke to everyone of the six before dying and Hurley told college!Walt and his owning grandmother (who is awesome btw) that his father was left behind, not dead. Could Locke have told Hurley that Mike is in fact alive? And if he was Jin probably would be too, which would make Sun want to come back.

42. Regarding Sun, IDK what to make out of her Widmore meeting. She seemingly blames Jack and I get that, but I don't think she'd sell Desmond or Penny out to him, wouldn't she? Maybe Ben? IDK. But she kicks ass anyway.

43. Okay, my two cents on Locke being back: things get out of hand on the island, he moves it back where it was so that they can come back (hey, if they have to go back they can't search for it if they don't have an idea, right?), by moving it back he's forced to go in the real world like Ben did, speaks with the Six and then dies either because he can't walk and commits suicide/Jacob told him it was a way to go back/gets killed (Sayid maybe? He seemed to know more than he let on at that point..). Can't explain that otherwise.

44. About Ben's final speech, WTF. I don't know what he has in mind and I don't even want to. I'll just retrieve into my happy corner where Des and Penny are making up for eight years of absence and then team up with Sayid and Hurley in order to be a team of total badassery and where Ben decides he doesn't want to kill her after all.

45. Claire? WTF?????????! All I've got to say. They screwed her storyline MUCH and I don't like it, but however. Let's hope they make the hell up for it, though I don't hope it.

46. God I'm drained and I want to make icons out of this but it'll take quite some time. Well, I'll get around to sooner or later.

The end.

So I have nine months to think this over? Great.

Okay, so, show, you fuck with my head and you hate me and sometimes you're pretty hateful yourself, but I still love you and you still know how to do things right. Amen.
 
 
feeling: jubilantjubilant
 
 
 
condoms, sexual lubricant, vagitine, & blueberriesprettybutt on May 30th, 2008 10:35 am (UTC)
sweet stuff what was the name of the pixies song from jack's scene?
the female ghost of tom joad: lost jack **janie_tangerine on May 30th, 2008 10:36 am (UTC)
If I'm not wrong should be Gouge Away ;)
condoms, sexual lubricant, vagitine, & blueberriesprettybutt on May 30th, 2008 11:12 am (UTC)
ty!!
Laura: Lost: Jack hydrapolvodestrella on May 30th, 2008 12:24 pm (UTC)
Though it's awesome that the more wasted Jack is the better his musical taste gets

I can only agree

Sayid and Jack in their rescued shirts -> love

I can only agree more
the female ghost of tom joad: lost jack **janie_tangerine on May 30th, 2008 01:18 pm (UTC)
Definitely good to be in agreement ;)
elliotsmelliot: Des penelliotsmelliot on May 30th, 2008 12:36 pm (UTC)
Okay, I will start where you did, skipping ahead to the reunion. Sigh, that was great. Penny was wonderful. It was amazing to see Desmond so happy. The kiss was very nice, especially when you know it was most likely followed by more and more. Like you, I can't believe this happened now. I am still in the 'where do we go from here' frame of mind and want to see more kisses but also want to see Penny and Desmond confront their past and their future. Plus I am still clinging to hope we will flesh out more of Desmond's character beyond being Mr. Penny, by going back to the flashes and Charlie. So maybe Charlie was visiting Desmond while Eko was playing chess with Hurley.

The Boone comment caught me off guard! Maybe in planning their hoax, the survivors chose the most significant deaths to them personally. Jack chose Boone, Desmond chose Charlie and Hurley chose Libby. One would think Sayid would fight for Shannon but that have made his reunion with Nadia awkward. (Plus I love your idea that Miles wants to make time with ghost Shannon!) I hope you get the new version soon. That scene was the only change I noticed.

Oh and you must write dead!Boone and dead!Locke NOW. I love your theory that Locke committed suicide not because he was despondent but because it was the only way he could get back. I wonder what he told the O6 that made them so hateful or were they just feeling guilty. It seemed they knew people were left behind and confirming Sawyer and Juliet were alive, and maybe Jin and Michael too would have made everyone a little more eager to go back to that hellish place. Knowing Locke, he was probably very vague, mentioned no names, tried to spread goo on their heads etc.

Dishevelled future Sayid was a thing to behold, as was wet Sayid, pensive Sayid and kicking ass Sayid. I also squeed that he was able to translate Desmon's yells.

Like you I was paranoid about Desmond dying in the crash and the foiler meaning he was haunting Jack at the parlour. Then I was panicked, even though it would have made no sense, that Desmond would be in the coffin because that would have been a more what the fuck moment than Locke. That's what was suitable punishment for being spoiled.

Um, I think Desmond's hoodie looked as yummy as the blue shirt but that could jus be because he looked so happy. RIP blue shirt, I imagine it has been washed and folded up very carefully in a drawer.

Oh and Sun, poor Sun and Jin. Now I am hoping for their reunion most of all!
the female ghost of tom joad: lost des/pennyjanie_tangerine on May 30th, 2008 01:17 pm (UTC)
Plus I am still clinging to hope we will flesh out more of Desmond's character beyond being Mr. Penny, by going back to the flashes and Charlie. So maybe Charlie was visiting Desmond while Eko was playing chess with Hurley.

Totally agreed on that. I quote every line of that first paragraph *sighs* God they did look so happy. That definitely is a ship you can root for.

I like that theory about the hoax. I just wish I could download it somewhere because everything I find isn't the enhanced version... mmmh, maybe they'll have it up on the abc site, I'll just have a look there because I need to see that.

The only thing in Locke killing himself like that, is that implies he must have kept his legs being back because it'd be a tad difficult to hang yourself in a wheelchair, but anyway I'll just let it go and I'll surely write that thing. I think I'm itching. And I'll buy your theory on Locke's behavior. He probably did like that and only made them more confused.

Dishevelled future Sayid was a thing to behold, as was wet Sayid, pensive Sayid and kicking ass Sayid. I also squeed that he was able to translate Desmon's yells.

Amen.

God that spoiler was the worst thing ever happened. I hadn't thought about him haunting Jack even if I was completely paranoid until the CPR worked (God, do I love Jack? Yes, I do, especially when he performs CPRs and does his job). I was terrified of him being in the coffin because it'd have been the Lost way to crash us after the reunion and there was the see you in another life. I freaked out until I saw there was Locke there. Thankfully it was a foiler.

Um, I think Desmond's hoodie looked as yummy as the blue shirt but that could just be because he looked so happy. RIP blue shirt, I imagine it has been washed and folded up very carefully in a drawer.

Oh, I'm with you. I'm so with you. I think Penny will ask him to wear the blue shirt from time to time though.

Oh and Sun, poor Sun and Jin. Now I am hoping for their reunion most of all!

You know, there was a spoiler floating around ages ago where they said that in S5 Locke, Sawyer and Jin were all alive on the island. About Sawyer I could have bet anything and on Locke too, but at this point I'd be hopeful that he didn't die. Though it might be that they changed idea or that it was a foiler, so it could probably be false. I'll choose to believe he's alive and hoping for them to have a reunion. Especially because Sun wouldn't have a reason to go back otherwise.
elliotsmelliot: Jack guhelliotsmelliot on May 30th, 2008 01:27 pm (UTC)
Maybe season 5 will focus on the last three years and then season 6 will be the return. Sun having more than revenge on her mind would be good. Now she has a reason to back.

I forgot to say I was initially confused at why Sayid was not doing the CPR on Desmond. Then I was like, right, Jack is a doctor (and Desmond's first boyfriend.)
the female ghost of tom joad: lost jack GUHjanie_tangerine on May 30th, 2008 02:24 pm (UTC)
I forgot to say I was initially confused at why Sayid was not doing the CPR on Desmond. Then I was like, right, Jack is a doctor (and Desmond's first boyfriend.)

That was probably because if Sayid had done it we would probably have all burst out in joy and probably died there before we even knew if the CPR worked. And it'd have made for some lovely graphics, but right, Jack is a doctor and the first boyfriend, so good that it was him. They know how to make me love the guy, don't they? Apart from Sayid he has probably saved the life all the people I like at some point.

Maybe season 5 will focus on the last three years and then season 6 will be the return. Sun having more than revenge on her mind would be good. Now she has a reason to back.

I definitely like the sound of this, oh yes.
°°  £å  §âM¥  °°: Lost * Dessylasamy on May 30th, 2008 12:52 pm (UTC)
DESANDPENNYDESANDPENNYDESANDPENNY!!!!!
diocristo <333333333333333333333333333333

e Jin `vivo..DEVE esserlo....cazzo... ;___;
the female ghost of tom joad: lost des/pennyjanie_tangerine on May 30th, 2008 01:17 pm (UTC)
AMENAMENAMEN.

Ah, io nego sia morto finchè non vedo cadaveri.

JIIIN CRISTO ;_;
&: lost → s; economistlivefortonight on May 30th, 2008 02:30 pm (UTC)
You've made so many awesome points here, I don't even know where to start!

I don't know what to make of the Sun/Widmore meeting, either. Have I missed something or has Sun not actually said she blames Jack for Jin's death? She only said to her father that two were to blame, him being one of them. She could have meant Frank or Widmore. Maybe she's playing Widmore? I hope she's working for Ben! That would be badass. But, yeah. I just don't know. I suppose it could very well be Jack she blames; would make sense.

The Des/Penny reunion was EPIC. It blew Sawyer/Kate out of the water. Great stuff.
the female ghost of tom joad: lost des/pennyjanie_tangerine on May 30th, 2008 02:35 pm (UTC)
Ha. Sawyer/Kate WHAAAT? After all that hype I thought it wasn't really that spectacular and then Des/Penny owned them and everything was right within my world.

I think she blames Jack, but I think she'll change idea. I mean, it was mostly unfortunate and god Jin I love you but you could have listened to Michael two minutes before. *sigh* And anyway I think he's alive. Or I want to, anyway.
L: Julietneated on May 30th, 2008 02:33 pm (UTC)
What an amazing episode.

I have tot totally agree on #15, 16 and 17

LMAO on 21. Miles and Shannon. Awesome...

Sayid and Jack in their rescued shirts -> love

Absolutely!!!

And I like your theory about Locke moving the island back where it belongs. That would be great.

*runs off to post her own review*
the female ghost of tom joad: lost julietjanie_tangerine on May 30th, 2008 02:38 pm (UTC)
Can't wait to read it!!!

Well, if the island isn't back where it was I seriously doubt they could find it again. I mean, it was already difficult to find already. And it makes sense to explain how Locke could be back inland, but tbh, I'm only thinking about Des and Penny right now and that stuff is already hard on my poor brain ;)

Well, Miles and Shannon would totally be snarky and awesome together! Guess it'll be my new crack ship.
M: the blast is beautiful [lost]_chica02 on May 30th, 2008 03:07 pm (UTC)
A few things...

-I think Michael is dead. The way Christian said "You can go now," it made me think he was saying "You can die now" because he actually physically couldn't before. I think Hurley just didn't have the heart to tell Walt.

-A lot of stuff that got dropped--like the Des/Charlie angst--is probably due to the writers' strike. I doubt Darlton forget much of anything. ;P

-I'm thisclose to being off the Jacket train and jumping aboard the Suliet! Hehe. Who needs Jack and Kate and their massive issues? ;P

-I've never been more terrified watching Lost than I was when they were doing CPR on Des. It could have been any one of the others and I would have been in suspense, but not actually shaking with my heart pounding. Oh Des. Never die.

I've got more, but I'll save it for now. What an amazing two hours!
the female ghost of tom joad: lost mike/walt nemojanie_tangerine on May 30th, 2008 04:33 pm (UTC)
Uhm, maybe I just don't want him to be dead ;) IDK what's with me and Michael but this season I was liking the direction his character took.

Well let's hope they pick it back up again next round. Not that I hope that but well...

Sawyer/Juliet IS an interesting ship! I like it myself. But again, I'll ship everything in that quadrangle that doesn't include Kate.

I was when they were doing CPR on Des. It could have been any one of the others and I would have been in suspense, but not actually shaking with my heart pounding. Oh Des. Never die.

THAT EXACTLY. I'd have been like that with Boone if I didn't know already that he was toast when I started watching. *sigh*

Amazing indeed!
the story girl: Lost2eponine119 on May 30th, 2008 03:34 pm (UTC)
I love the way you're making lemonade out of the visits of the dead. Hurley + Dead!Boone rocks, but then you got Miles having a crush on Shannon and that is made of WIN.
the female ghost of tom joad: lost -> generaljanie_tangerine on May 30th, 2008 04:36 pm (UTC)
I decided to believe for my mental sanity that the dead people there actually get a kick out of that madness and want to hang out. Isn't Miles crushing on Shannon just a good thing? They'd be so sarcastic and snarky together!
The ducks in the bathroom are not mine.: Juliet_Downtown6degreesoflea on May 30th, 2008 04:03 pm (UTC)
Did I miss a whole scene? When were Boone and Libby mentioned? Am I so whacked out on the great episode that I just can't recall it? *goes to watch it a third time while her mind is still exploding*
the female ghost of tom joad: lost julietjanie_tangerine on May 30th, 2008 04:38 pm (UTC)
No, you didn't. I mean, it was in a enhanced version of the first part, the one where there's the press conferences, where they mention them and say they survived the plane crash but died later. But I can't find it anywhere to download *shrugs*.
alemyrddin: HurleyDudeVanalemyrddin on May 30th, 2008 04:09 pm (UTC)
I'm so drained... but I amso HAPPY for Des/Penny!

4. huh? enhanced version? really? where? *puppy eyes*

5. Locke surely would have told her Sawyer was alive, right? good point. IDK.

8. Answers! finally!

10/12: awesome!

14. aw. I didn't think about that. *is heartbroken sll over again*

15/16. Spectacular jump, I'd say. I cried too..

19. I wonder what happened to him. I think so, too.

20.WTF??

21. LOL! ;)


23. he. You're so right.

25. I'm sorry for Jin, mostly because he had become much more interesting since he start speaking English. *sighs*

26. You can be right. At least, I hope you are.

28. Thas scene was so amzaingly acted, so powerful. I will never blame Jack but I think he didn't react like he usually does, putting everyone else before himself. And even if it was the rational thing to do, it still made me sad, a bit. Because he will feel guilty about that, forever.

29. That was so unexpected. I kept worrying he was going to die. And maybe in S6 there will be another chopper with Claire and Aaron leaving the island?

30. LOL. So true.

32. I think the metal had the purpose to break the wall behind the vault, so he could get to that wheel and move the island. By hand, lol.

34. I so agree about this.

35.AWESOME!!

36. oh, I forgot about that. It was awesome too, I agree! Cheesy, but awesome. ;)

38. The fact that she knows gives me hope. And maybe She/they can help the O6, somehow.

39.It must mean something. But.. what?

40. I hope so, but I'm not optimistic on that.

41. I was wondering how Hurley could lie so straight-faced and maybe you are right. Locke told him, so he wasn't lying because Michael was really alive.


42. IDK, but I didn't see that as a betrayal. I thought she was trying to find the island and hoped to gather informations from Widmore.

43.Maybe. I really don't know what to think.
the female ghost of tom joad: lost des/pennyjanie_tangerine on May 30th, 2008 04:51 pm (UTC)
4) I wish I knew... they aired it, but I couldn't find it for dloading anywhere ç_ç

14) Sadly.... *cries again like woah* Sawyer do I love you so much, don't I?

21) Come on, they're so made for each other!

23) My man is a lot of things but not suited for the military, oh no.

25) Agreed. He was also one of the few people with a consistent character development. Coherent, too.

28) Agreed. But I still hope Jin is alive. Hey, I'm in denial.

29) Let's hope! I'd love to see that, though Aaron would probably be too grown up for fitting the vision. Okay, I won't speculate further because then it becomes creeepy.

32) Right. Completely missed it, but at that point I already lost the track.

34/35/36) Amen ;)

38) That'd make me so ridiculously happy.

39) Jacob sends his thanks? ;)

41) I hope so, too. Hurley isn't the best liar in the world and he seemed pretty sure.

42) I chose to believe this ;)

43) I'll just think about Desmond and Penny and who cares, they'll explain it? Maybe?
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the female ghost of tom joad: lost hippie winsjanie_tangerine on May 30th, 2008 07:13 pm (UTC)
HELL YES IT WAS!

And Frank is totally teh shit. I love him. I LOVE him.
smile... it confuses people: Lost: Des/Penny phonecallnovalee17 on May 30th, 2008 08:44 pm (UTC)
goood, i totally agree, that kiss between des and penny was just... pure love and awesomeness! and i think they might have meant that kiss to be the spectacular one and just fooled us with kate and sawyer so we don't believe des meets penny again... but well, that were just my thoughts :D
the female ghost of tom joad: lost des/pennyjanie_tangerine on May 30th, 2008 09:13 pm (UTC)
Oh, I buy that. And if they really thought Kate and Sawyer was spectacular.... *shrugs* sorry but Des/Pen totally owned them for realz. But for real. THAT was spectacular.