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02 October 2009 @ 12:54 pm
supernatural 5x04 'The End'  
..... *is brain dead*

1. Jesus-Christ-I-loved-this. Though titling it after the Doors? Win just for that.

2. I mean, you're talking with a total apocalypse/dystopia freak and didn't this fit the bill? It-so-did.

3. I was so happy they brought the Croatoan virus back into the picture. What a great way to incorporate it into the story again.

4. Question before I forget again: I can't go re-watching it now because otherwise I'll probably finish the day after tomorrow, but in that picture Dean found in Bobby's diary where I THINK you could see him too, was he walking or not? Or maybe I just saw only scruff!Cas and I completely didn't get what everyone else was doing and who was in the picture? Scratch it, I checked and he was on the chair. I was sure he was like sitting down or something but I was utterly wrong.

5. I'm 99% positive that the girl was in Ian Somerhalder's worst movie to date. I had a lot of fun times when she showed up.

6. Okay, on to serious things: the Dean/Sam initial phone conversation? Jesus. Christ. I was chocked and it was barely five minutes into the ep. Oh, those two. THOSE TWO.

7. Well, guess that my policy of always avoiding Jehova's witnesses is a good one? And Zachariah, you-are-a-dick. Hell. Yes. Also, I love that his plans always end up backfiring and that this totally didn't end up like he hoped it would.

8. THE TWO DEANS. Okay, apart from my hormones dying and going to heaven, kudos to JA because that was extremely hard to pull off. And on one side I loved that present!Dean thinks of himself as a dick and generally questions his own actions and future!Dean is so changed and hardened and fucked up and not trusting himself either and it just makes me so heartbroken that he'd end up that way. And when present!Dean asked about Sam it was just... ;_____; also, I loved fiercely that in the end present!Dean argued the fact that future!Dean was basically sending everyone to die (and I loved that he mentioned Cas especially, lol). THANKFULLY he did stand up for it. THAT'S my guy.

Though. Future!Dean getting back into torturing and shooting people point blank and wishing he had given himself to Michael and NOT SEEING THAT HE SHOULD HAVE SUGGESTED DEAN TO CALL SAM INSTEAD? God, he's so far gone and he hurts me so much. I'm just glad that present!Dean was smart enough to figure out that shit on his own.

8b. SO DEAN IS INTO CROSSDRESSING AND PINK PANTIES.

MY CROSSDRESSING KINK IS VERY, VERY HAPPY ATM.

9. CHUCK, MARRY ME. SERIOUSLY. YOU AND YOUR INVENTORY AND YOUR MENTAL SANITY. Because he seriously was the last one with some mental sanity left, poor guy. And the toilet paper. Jesus. Christ. CHUCK. You're adorable and I want to squish you for eternity.

10. Present!Cas: NEVER CHANGE. No. Really. THE VOICE SAYS I'M ALMOST OUT OF MINUTES. *snort* That so will NEVER get old. Want me to recharge you, babe? Also, srsly Dean. I was so disappointed that he left him waiting on the side of that road for FOUR hours. CAS. ;_; And then when in the end he went and snapped Dean back and Zach was totally pissed and Cas was like WE HAVE AN APPOINTMENT. YES. <3333 Oh, ilu. I just hope that they get him to do some serious smiling and not his adorable half-smile someday without getting him high.

11. Future!Cas: Jesuschristonflatbread he hurt my heart but I think they did a terrific job showing what would happen to him if he lost his grace and his faith. After all I can't exactly see why he'd take it well. And I just loved that he'd deal with it in such a human way. Fine, it's so not Cas to get high and have orgies and all that crap but hey. It's the apocalypse and it's fucked up so I can totally see it. (Also, Cas, absinthium? Really? I know a couple of places. No, I never had any, but I had friends who did. Whatevs.) Also, I loved that a) he totally winked at present!Dean, b) that he called future!Dean fearless leader with evident sarcasm and said he liked the present one better (of course he would, duh) and c) that he stuck even with everything happening. God, I was so sad for him, when he was having that conversation with Dean in the car I wanted to hug him and never let go or something. I just imagine how it'd be for the poor guy feeling so useless and human and all that crap. And while him turning to sex, drugs and rock n' roll was painful to watch and I wanted to cry, I just loved that they had him hitting rock bottom so hard. Also, all the small gestures like smiling a sorta-not-stoned-smile when present!Dean was around and not looking when future!Dean shot people in cold blood which just shows he's jonesing for old!Dean... Christ. Okay. Soon as I'm done with this and buying groceries I'm writing fic. Christ. And like when he pointed to present!Dean that future!Dean was torturing people. Craaap. ;__;

BUT, he didn't leave. That just... CAS. And while he thought the mission was suicide he still didn't hesitate when Dean asked if he'd go. Because of course he goes even if he's totally hopeless and knows it and just... just... CAS. Yeah, well, I'm stuck on that. Forgive me? ;)

11b. Seriously, I just hope that the argument about Cas having an hidden agenda and working against the Winchesters is done here? Because seriously. He fucking gave up everything and became human and STAYED even when I guess that he didn't exactly recognize the Dean he had known in the beginning anymore, saying that he isn't on their side now is preposterous.

11c. People. People. WHY DIDN'T A SINGLE REVIEW I READ MENTION THAT HUMAN!CAS WAS DRIVING THE CAR??? When did he learn? Who taught him? Why was it way too hot for it to be legal? PEOPLE, CASTIEL WAS DRIVING A CAR.

Though I can't exactly see future!Dean teaching him. Maybe early!future!Dean. Or maybe Chuck? God, that'd be crack. People, what. This needs exploring.

12. SAM. JESUS. CHRIST. AGAIN.

So. I don't ever want Sam to say yes. NEVER. But. I need to admit that a) Jared can pull some horrible clothing like that off (srsly, CREAM SHIRT? Those shoes??) and that b) HE CAN ACT. He totally channeled Lucy the way Mark Pellegrino channeled him even if please I WANT SAM TO BE A NICE GOOD PERSON and I'll keep Mark for Lucifer, thank you so much. That scene. Was. Painful. Between Lucifer's talk and Dean crying as he saw what had become of Sam and guessing that it was mainly because he had been a jerk and told him no in the beginning? GOD THOSE TWO, YOU KILL ME WITH THE ANGST. I loved that the first thing Dean does after Cas brings them on their roadside date is calling Sam. <3333

13. THEY'RE TOGETHER AGAIN!! *raises fist* Guess they have still issues to solve but THEY'RE TOGETHER AGAIN and it was such a touching scene and I love that they're starting to patch things up and Dean said that of course he'd trust Sam, he was only the second-best, and omg YES YES YES. I like that it's back to DeanandSam, like I had any doubt, but still, better sooner than later. <3333 OMG yes it feels so good to see them together again, it just so IS. And Sam apologizing and being so earnest and Dean finally accepting it omgyes. *sniff* I had so been waiting for this. Though... PEOPLE. TWO CHEATED HUGS. I mean, I guess the Cas one wasn't going to happen but jeeezzz, GIVE SAM ONE, WON'T YOU? Or does Dean need another lesson from Zach in order to realize that he needs to give us some hugs once each season?

13b. Can I hope in some whorehouse threesome fun now? *cough*

14. Okay, apart from that, LOL at Dean assuming it was Cas calling in the beginning and then it was Sam. LOL. Caught much?

15. Cas = totally wearing Dean's clothes btw. Fine, as Chuck probably would say when in need you share stuff, but it still makes me sooo amused.

16. Though most telling scene: THE CAR. The fact that future!Dean let the car get like THAT means he's seriously, seriously fucked up.

17. Anyway, I want to book a yoga lesson with Cas. The stretching? Mm. That is all Misha's doing imo, but mm. Though I'm interested about the whole Buddhism thing. I mean, he really sort of converted or it was just for the kicks and because it gets the girls? That part was so sad btw. So freaking sad. Damn, I couldn't even be happy about the poor guy cranking a serious smile because it just showed how exactly far he had gone. Phew. Misha, hi, you're a good actor.

18. I need to think about this episode some more. I'll go buying groceries meanwhile. Also if you find some pink panties fic direct me that way before I actually go write it myself and I don't know how I'd pull that off.

19. Though, THE question of principle: from this future it seems to me that there's no chance that poor Jimmy is still in there (since if Cas is human he can't possibly possess anyone anyway), but would that be too hard to just state it if he is? Though well. I'll cling to the possibility he might have been in there until Cas lost his mojo. Yeah, well, I'm a stubborn person.

Also, CAPS. Where are the caps? I need to icon this.
 
 
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thandiethandie on October 2nd, 2009 01:27 pm (UTC)
I'm still stuck on Jensen Ackles being two different versions of his hotass self, and Cas being that miserable adorable creature that exists in a permanent status of high-on-drugs to avoid reality.
This shows that Ben Edlund should like write ALL episodes, and I'd be forever a happy camper.
I think I have ONLY one complaint in one scene, but it's so small and insignificant that I so don't care :)

Coming back later with opinions, right now I'm just flailing all over the place.
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural dean/cas bffs <3janie_tangerine on October 2nd, 2009 05:30 pm (UTC)
The double Jensen was a killer thing. Duh, I think that they want to kill us before the season is over. And miserable/adorable is so good of a description! God, Cas. You hurt me so, seriously.

This shows that Ben Edlund should like write ALL episodes, and I'd be forever a happy camper.

I concur, though I'll let Jeremy Carver write a couple too. ;) And flailing all over the place is exactly what I did.
alemyrddinalemyrddin on October 2nd, 2009 02:55 pm (UTC)
Starting from the end: I think Jimmy died last season, when he let Cas into him the second time, didn't he? Castiel said there was no going back this time, or something like that.
Or - as an alternative - when Cas died and then suddenly reappeared this season, maybe that's when he sort of became his vessel. Because when he became human in 2014, he was certainly not Jimmy, but Castiel.

Other things:
8b. SO DEAN IS INTO CROSSDRESSING AND PINK PANTIES.
LOL that was really, really good.

I loved how Jared acted as Lucifer... it was impressive imo.
The whole "back to the future" thing was heartbreaking in the acting an realization, but I didn't like the idea that much. Moreover, I'm still stuck with Lost' idea that "you can't change what already happened". So I'm with Sam-Lucifer when he said that whatever Dean does, they will end up there.
Rationally, taking into consideration the fact that it's a TV show based on Sam and Dean, I think in the end everything will be okay. And I'm really glad for it, but it kinda makes me grit my teeth, you know?

But, speculation aside, I really enjoyed the ep! :)
bold_seer: for youbold_seer on October 2nd, 2009 03:54 pm (UTC)
Sorry, butting in...

I'm still stuck with Lost' idea that "you can't change what already happened".

I'm tired, and I probably don't make any sense, but my hypothesis is that you can't change things that are in the past (i.e. happened before the time you travelled from). Thus, the Losties may not prevent what happened in the seventies etc., but Dean can choose a different future, by making other choices in his present. But future!Dean would not be able to change things in 2009.
alemyrddinalemyrddin on October 4th, 2009 12:23 pm (UTC)
you know, you make a good point.
I still don't like the idea much (I've seen it too often, probably), but now I can see how it can work, if you separate Dean'09 from Dean'14.
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural beckyjanie_tangerine on October 2nd, 2009 05:35 pm (UTC)
Mm, I'm not sure about that. Castiel told him he'd have had to endure possession for x number of years, so I'm pretty sure that he was still alive when Castiel got back into him. Then again he probably died when Cas exploded, but until someone said it I'll just pretend that they resurrected him too and that he died some time between 2009 and when Castiel lost his mojo for good. I just am reluctant of admitting that characters I like died when it's not 100% obvious. ;)

The crossdressing was GOLD!

Jared's acting was impressive indeed. I don't ever want that to happen but he did act it fine.

Mm, you do have a point but I think it's a different situation. While in Lost they're going back in time so they can't possibly change what has happened already (same thing which happened in SPN last year btw, when Dean went into the past he was unable to change it), but here Dean just went into a possible future that was there because (I guess) he refused to talk to Sam in the beginning and kept on doing his own thing alone, but if he changes his actions in the present I think he could change the future. While the past is done, the future still isn't, or at least that's how I understood the whole thing. And I hope that they're done with time traveling because while it's way less of an headache than in Lost I want my timelines linear. ;)

It was a good one! :)
alemyrddinalemyrddin on October 4th, 2009 12:25 pm (UTC)
ah, maybe you are right about Jimmy - I don't remember canon that well, probably!

As for the time-changing thing, as I was saying to bold_seer above, I still don't like the idea much (I've seen it too often, probably), but now I can see how it can work, if you separate Dean'09 from Dean'14.
I agree though: enough with the time-traveling!!
bold_seer: detectivebold_seer on October 2nd, 2009 03:08 pm (UTC)
THANKFULLY he did stand up for it. THAT'S my guy.

Present!Dean > future!Dean... Actually, present!everyone > future!everyone (though I loved the scruffiness of future!Cas - the photo!).

That part was so sad btw. So freaking sad. Damn, I couldn't even be happy about the poor guy cranking a serious smile because it just showed how exactly far he had gone.

It was awful, in a way, because it was Castiel, but not Castiel.

HUMAN!CAS WAS DRIVING THE CAR

I feel very incompetent now; I don't drive, but, apparently, even almost human angels have learnt to drive - at least in a possible future.

I think Jimmy was gone when Castiel was resurrected.

the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural castieljanie_tangerine on October 2nd, 2009 05:26 pm (UTC)
Jimmy being gone when Cas resurrected is probably the obvious/sanest conclusion but I'm not wanting to be reasonable and until someone says it flat out I'll probably find some excuse to think he's still in there, lol.

Present > future indeed (and MM CAS IN THAT PHOTO WAS FINE). And yeah, it was indeed Cas but not and I just was wanting to cry. :((
Lou: spn - castiel deangottalovev on October 2nd, 2009 04:53 pm (UTC)
I'm so happy you loved it that much.

the return of the croatoan virus is great. and a great scenario for the end of the world.

present!cas is so ridiculously adorable. I keep cooing at him. And even if future!cas is funny, it made me feel so sad for him. He truly lost it all. and yeah, I don't think Jimmy is there anymore.

I TOTALLY thought of you at the crossdressing reference. lol! how is that for wish fulfillment?
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural dean/castieljanie_tangerine on October 2nd, 2009 05:23 pm (UTC)
how is that for wish fulfillment?

The best thing was that they were PINK panties. Jesus if someone doesn't write fic about that I'll be so disappointed.

I just loved that they don't leave dead ends, y'know? I really liked that they went back there.

I keep cooing at him.

ME TOO. Jesus. I was like AWWW each ten seconds. And in his last scene I just hope no one in the house heard my squeeing. And yeah in the future Jimmy sure is gone, but until they say it I just don't think that I want to admit that he's gone, lol.
Kros_21kros_21 on October 2nd, 2009 05:58 pm (UTC)
mi sono scordata di tornare qui a commentare la scorsa settimana ma sono qui ora.
ma come fai a vedere l'episodio di mattina? io il venerdì c'ho sempre da fare. Quando esce la tua review sto a caro amico! XD

Cmq....
quella telefonata iniziale fra Dean e Sam. Io ancora non ho sviluppato una mia teoria. Continuo a ripetermi che Dean didn't mean it... but cacchio invece si! E non è che non sapesse che Sam era Lucifer's vassel (1000 POINTS PER SAM PERCHE' HA CHIAMATO SUBITO DEAN PER DIRGLIELO). Quindi insomma, per quanto puoi essere deluso/preoccupato/rassegnato/whatever.. tuo fratello ti dice una cosa del genere e tu rispondi "we have to keep stay apart"???????
A sto punto grande Zac per avergli dato una lezioncina!!!

E cmq Lucifer e Zac si sbagliano di grosso perchè Dean non deve dire SI a Michael ma a SAM!!! E ora che sono di nuovo insieme stavolta andrà bene (nel senso che al massimo muoiono tutti e due da buoni ma Sam non si indarkisce). Make up sex now???!!

E poi cazzo Kripke, un abbraccio lì sotto al ponte ci stava tutto!!!!!
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural dean/sam omg aujanie_tangerine on October 3rd, 2009 10:14 am (UTC)
Eeeeeh, mi alzo alle sette, metto a scaricare, aspetto la nostra comune conoscenza che di solito sta su per le nove e per le dieci ho finito... non so quanto durerà perchè fino ad ora ho sempre avuto il ven. mattina libero, dalla settimana prossima avrò lezione quindi non so come farò ma finchè posso... XDD

(1000 POINTS PER SAM PERCHE' HA CHIAMATO SUBITO DEAN PER DIRGLIELO). Quindi insomma, per quanto puoi essere deluso/preoccupato/rassegnato/whatever.. tuo fratello ti dice una cosa del genere e tu rispondi "we have to keep stay apart"???????

Sì a quel punto volevo seriamente prenderlo a schiaffi =___=''' vabbe che poi appena è finito nel futuro volevo prendere a schiaffi più L'ALTRO Dean che lui quindi mi ha ripreso punti ma.... seriamente. Cazzo dici Dean? Fortuna che la lezione gli è servita eccome.

MAKE UP SEX? Direi che è il minimo. ;) ;)

E poi cazzo Kripke, un abbraccio lì sotto al ponte ci stava tutto!!!!!

Ci sto disperando a questo punto... vabbe che di solito è uno a stagione e siamo sul presto ma... ooh, quando arriva? XDD
Lady Macbeth: Sam Lucipher Puppyladymacbeth77 on October 2nd, 2009 11:59 pm (UTC)
Puntata bellissima, la migliore.
E ottima prova di attori, specialmente di Jensen che è bravissimo nello sdoppiarsi e nel rendere due personaggi così differenti anche se uguali, e di Jared che è impressionante come Lucifero. E ometto che Sam/Lucifero mi fa sesso da paura XD
Misha con la barbetta è da sbavo *ç*
Momenti di esultanza: il "Neh" in faccia a Zaccaria! ♥
Il finale... uah, ma quanto sono teneri?! Certo che sto abbraccio ci stava!
Chuck è un dio, io lo adoro! E la scena della sparatoria sulle note di "Do you love me?"... molto Coppola e "Apocalypse Now", la crudeltà della guerra mascherata (anche finale di "Full Metal Jacket"). Tra l'altro è girata benissimo questa puntata!

Solo... certo che la Palin presidente degli USA è davvero l'Apocalisse! *brivido*
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural samjanie_tangerine on October 3rd, 2009 10:16 am (UTC)
VERO? La adorooo *___*

Jensen come cavolo ha fatto non lo so O__O'' specie perchè la sua versione futura non era tutta 'sta gioia davvero °_° e quello che hai detto su Jared XDD

MISHA CON LA BARBETTA MIO DIO. Mi sentivo abbastanza una schifezza perchè da una parte volevo mettermi a piangere ogni volta che apriva bocca e dall'altra ero 'ma però il look gli dona...' XDD

Eeeeh. =__='' ce ne stavano almeno due di abbracci a 'sto giro ma proprio no eh?

CHUCK E' FANTASTICO. <333 Quella scena mi sono completamente scordata di nominarla ma era una meraviglia *__* concordo sul fatto che era girato da dio *__*

Solo... certo che la Palin presidente degli USA è davvero l'Apocalisse! *brivido*

Ma davvero °_° fortuna che se fosse stato qui peggio di come è già non poteva essere XDD
catoasapun: [SPN] Dean/Cas BFFcatoasapun on October 3rd, 2009 03:56 am (UTC)
, I loved fiercely that in the end present!Dean argued the fact that future!Dean was basically sending everyone to die (and I loved that he mentioned Cas especially, lol). THANKFULLY he did stand up for it. THAT'S my guy
AMEN! Oh, he was so fantastic. Oh god. Annnnd, I agree with you: Jensen was absolutely amazing this episode - he outdid himself. Like, that final scene with Sam!Lucy? Jensen stole that scene. Stole. It.

Because he seriously was the last one with some mental sanity left, poor guy. And the toilet paper. Jesus. Christ. CHUCK. You're adorable and I want to squish you for eternity.
LOL YES! CHUCK IS SO ADORABLE AND MUST BE HUGGED! I also found it amusing that he seemed to have the most amount of sanity in the bunch - this drunken, delusional little prophet ends up being the sane one. Beautiful. How I love him!

Future!Cas: Jesuschristonflatbread he hurt my heart
ME TOO! ;_; Oh our Cas was just so broken and hopeless and... *weeps* Oh, poor baby! I want to hug him and make it better! That fact that he had stuck around after so long, after so fucking much, absolutely made my heart warm. He stayed by Dean's side through it all, and... YES.

YAY FOR THE BOYS BEING BACK TOGETHER!
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural dean/cas bffs <3janie_tangerine on October 3rd, 2009 10:19 am (UTC)
THAT. I was thinking I'd write a heap of future!Dean/future!Cas fics but after this I totally decided I'm going for present!Dean/future!Cas instead. *cough* Jensen was so good really! Overdid himself, but so well. *_*

CHUCK NEEDS TONS OF HUGS and possibly to be married or something. I want to marry him, dammit. And yeah, what you said. It was kind of strange that of everyone the only person left with some sense was CHUCK, but it just made things even more awesome. Because he is awesome. Mm, now I kind of want someone to write sane!Chuck consoling future!Cas in a totally bff way.

THAT. OMG CAS. CAS. CAS. ;___________; I wanted to hug him so much it wasn't ven funny.

That fact that he had stuck around after so long, after so fucking much, absolutely made my heart warm. He stayed by Dean's side through it all, and... YES.

THIS. THIS. <3333

AND YAY INDEED!
These aren't the droids you're looking for.: bring on the zombie apocalypse!elvisglasses5 on October 3rd, 2009 05:05 pm (UTC)
Two Deans was amazing. They better frakking do a DVD commentary for this ep w/ Edlund, Kripke, and the ep director b/c I want some technospeak on how they did that. It was seamless and Jensen blew me out of the water. (Heh. Future!Dean inspires even dirtier thoughts than usual...)

As for the Tale of Two Castiels: the final scene by the side on the road was pure love on Cas's end. Seriously, the look in his eyes?? Misha's totally doing that on purpose. And future!Cas's broken coping skills and snarky bitterness to future!Dean ("our fearless leader") read as serious disillusionment and devotion gone unrewarded. I hope the angsty apocofic is being written as we speak. In my mind, like you said, early!future!Dean is not nearly so dickish and would've taught Cas to drive and shoot and snuggle on a post-apocalyptic, unheated motel room bed...
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural dean/castieljanie_tangerine on October 4th, 2009 11:18 am (UTC)
Mm, TWO DEANS. While I wasn't too fond of the future one just the bare idea was... *dies* this NEEDS to have a commentary. Also because I really want to know how they did it to. Mm, Jensen you are GOOD.

Word about the final scene. Just, the way he looks at Dean... I'm sure Misha plays it that way but seriously. Just. SERIOUSLY.

read as serious disillusionment and devotion gone unrewarded.

THIS! THIS. I totally plan on the angsty apocafic. I just need to finish the icons for this ep first. But I'm soo doing that, dammit.

early!future!Dean is not nearly so dickish and would've taught Cas to drive and shoot and snuggle on a post-apocalyptic, unheated motel room bed...

Considering what happens later it just breaks my heart but... yes. ;___;
Fangirlage like WHOA.: SPN // Chuck - Needs Hugshopelessfangirl on October 6th, 2009 03:33 am (UTC)
"Though titling it after the Doors? Win just for that."

RIGHT? Obviously I thought of The Beatles' The End first by default, but I figured that it was a Doors reference if anything. Fits waaaay, way more.

"I'm 99% positive that the girl was in Ian Somerhalder's worst movie to date. I had a lot of fun times when she showed up."

LOL which movie is that?

"Also, I love that [Zach's] plans always end up backfiring and that this totally didn't end up like he hoped it would."

BAHA, YES. I'm pretty sure I would've reached into the TV and slapped Dean if he said yes to Michael, even after learning what he did. You just know Zachariah has his own agenda.

I'll probably never get over TWO DEANS. TWO OF THEM. And they were very distinct from each other, which is all due to Jensen's mad acting skillz. He definitely pulled this off with flying colours.

I love how Chuck just fits so perfectly into this show. Like, we've only seen him... 3 times before this? ...and he feels like he's been part of the show forever. ♥ My motto for every episode now will be: NEEDS MOAR CHUCK.

I never fully appreciated how heartbreaking future!Cas was until my second viewing. I guess it was just cause he felt like a slightly sillier Misha and I was more focused on the amusing aspect of him the first time around. It never really clicked emotionally that this was CAS until I watched it the second time. Seriously, NEVER CHANGE, CAS. ♥

"Seriously, I just hope that the argument about Cas having an hidden agenda and working against the Winchesters is done here? "

Whoa, are there still people who think he has a hidden agenda? Admittedly I was in that camp for the longest time, but I was completely sold on Cas by the latter part of S4. I don't see how anyone could distrust him anymore!

BAHA, CHUCK TEACHING CAS TO DRIVE WOULD BE A+++++++! I imagine any mistakes Cas would make would play out like this.

Okay seriously, how the fuck did Jared pull off that outfit? Cause he didn't just make it look not-terrible, he made it look GOOD. And I think he did a pretty good job of the more quiet sort of evil as opposed to Meg!evil from BUABS, so I really applaud that. ♥ That scene was so hard to watch... it's literally the definition of D=

THE FINAL SCENE NEEDED A HUG. ESPECIALLY SINCE DEAN SAW LUCIFER!SAM AND SHOULD'VE CLUNG TO NON-LUCIFER!SAM LIKE THERE'S NO TOMORROW. C'MON NOW.

"Though, THE question of principle: from this future it seems to me that there's no chance that poor Jimmy is still in there (since if Cas is human he can't possibly possess anyone anyway), but would that be too hard to just state it if he is? Though well. I'll cling to the possibility he might have been in there until Cas lost his mojo. Yeah, well, I'm a stubborn person."

I WAS PONDERING THIS TOO! My logic was that human!Cas = Jimmy until wandersfound pointed out that human!Cas is just Cas without his grace, not an actual transformation into/back into a human (ie: Jimmy). Which just makes me sad, cause poor Jimmy gets lost in all of this somewhere along the way. =(

I hope you enjoyed the novel I wrote you, lol.
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural future!cas ;___;janie_tangerine on October 6th, 2009 06:23 am (UTC)
Hey, write me novels everytime, I love novels. ;) ;)

Yep, Doors reference I think. VERY fitting. Indeed. I just wish they used it in the ep.

The movie is Fireball, whose subtitled should be WATCH THIS, YOU'LL LOSE TWO HOURS OF YOUR LIFE. It was so bad I couldn't even laugh at it, lol. I mean, compared to that? Vampire Diaries is Citizen Kane XDD

I would've reached into the TV and slapped Dean if he said yes to Michael, even after learning what he did.

THIS. If they ever introduce Michael outside Dean (in the sense that he doesn't possess him) I hope he's less of a jerk.

JENSEN'S MAD ACTING SKILLS YES. THAT. TWO DEANS. MMM.

. Like, we've only seen him... 3 times before this? ...and he feels like he's been part of the show forever. ♥

THIS. God this. Chuck is so awesome. I ♥ him like woah. Maybe it's because he has been writing it since forever? :P

Yeah, you could take the amusing aspect of fut!Cas too but... God. HURT. I wanted to cry every time he said something. CAS.

Whoa, are there still people who think he has a hidden agenda?

Sadly, yes. Which makes me mad because really, I get that one could distrust him in the beginning (not that I did much, but the character didn't grab me until the second half of S4) but questioning his loyalties now seems preposterous to me. Come on. After THIS ep, I just hope people will can it and find other ways of bashing if they really have to.

THAT'D TOTALLY PLAY LIKE THAT!! I dunno, might be that Cas/Chuck is totally my crack pairing or that I like them as friends or whatever but I'd really like to read such a fic. Maybe I'll write it, lol.

THAT. Jared DID pull that off so well, and it was flawless imo. Though... yeah, DDDDD=

THAT THAT THAT. WHAT NO HUGS?? I WAS DISAPPOINTED IN THAT.

Yes, I think it's that. :(( I want to think that Jimmy is still there and that he'd leave for good if Cas were to fall, but argh, show, SAY IT straight.

;) <333
Fangirlage like WHOA.: SPN // Cas - Eyebrow Wagglehopelessfangirl on October 6th, 2009 02:38 pm (UTC)
LOL OMG, if you write that Cas/Chuck crack fic, there is absolutely no question that I WILL READ IT. =D