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14 May 2010 @ 07:40 pm
the vampire porn 1x22 Founder's Day / SPN 5x22 Swan Song  
Oh God I just hope this doesn't get too long.

1. Okay, I might need to re-watch it because I have _izu_ and marlonob here and neither of them watches it so it was kind of rushed and I didn't pay as much attention to it as I could, but.

2. THANK FUCK ALARIC ISN'T DEAD. NEEDS MOAR ALARIC.

3. Okay, that said, DAMON ILU AND YOUR FEELINGS AND YOUR CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT AND YOU APOLOGIZING TO JEREMY THAT SCENE BROKE ME IN PIECES ;_______________;

4. Elena + Stefan = awwwwwwwwww. Also GO STEFAN FOR SAVING DAMON I KNOW YOU TWO CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER. <33333333333333333333333

5. Jeremy = oh god cheer up emo kid much? I realize you lost to gfs in one season but wow OO I didn't get if he was trying to turn or to kill himself but duh THAT WAS HARSH.

6. That said, ANNAAAAAAAAA ;_; I'm so sorry she got killed off, I ended up liking her. ;__;

7. I'm kind of sorry for poor Johnathan. Right, bastard is a bastard, but.

8. Matt & Caroline = awww.

9. Tyler is a werewolf? Duuuh. So that's why his dad ended up in the basement? Iinteresting.

10. I TOTALLY HADN'T SEEN KATHERINE COMING. I DIDN'T EVEN SUSPECT IT WHEN SHE KISSED DAMON EVEN IF I SHOULD HAVE. AND OMG THAT ENDING THAT'S A CLIFFHANGER WTF WTF WTF????!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11. In result, my brain was broken and Damon, ilu forever. ♥♥♥♥ Sorry for the lame reaction post but I really haven't managed to watch it with the attention it deserved. Will totally re-watch it asap though, it was a good finale!

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Aaaand, on to SPN now.

1. So, from what I've seen the reactions are pretty mixed. Idk, I mostly liked it, while one thing I was totally not okay with and another three or four left me wtf.

So, what I liked:

2. SAM. SAM. SAM. OMG I LOVE YOU SO VERY MUCH AND I'M SO PROUD OF YOU. ;___________; I loved Jared's acting in this, I really think he pulled it off. Even if Mark Pellegrino is the best at the role anyway. ;)

3. THE MONTAGES WITH SAM, DEAN AND THE CAR WITH CHUCK'S CHEESY WRITING. ;____; Okay, when there was the slow motion and Dean got to Sam it was cheesy as fuck but I DON'T CARE I WAS SOBBING ANYWAY.

4. DEAN. Okay, no, I didn't like a couple of things he did, but GOD WHEN HE GOT TO SAM IN THE END EVEN IF HE WAS COMPLETELY BEATEN DOWN AND WHEN HE STROLLED IN WITH THE CAR AND HIS FACE WHEN LUCIFER TOOK OVER SAM. God. That. ;_____;

4. Chuck's cheesy narrative. Yeah, blame me, I'm a sap.

5. Cas blowing Michael up. WITH THE HOLY FIRE MOTOLOVE. GOD. CAS. YOU BADASS, EVEN IF YOU JUST WANTED TO GO GET WASTED. ALSO HIS TALK WITH SAM WHEN HE WAS ALL AWKWARD AND TRYING TO SAY THE RIGHT THING AND BEING ALL LIKE 'OH, I WAS SUPPOSED TO LIE'.

6. NO ONE DIED. Well, right, everyone got resurrected, but God I swear when Bobby and Cas were both dead I was like 'okay, if no one resurrects them in ten minutes I WILL FLIP'. Thankfully they were.

7. Cas' face when he came back and healed Dean/revived Bobby. GOD. THAT WAS WORTH THE ENTIRE EP IMO.

8. THE ENDING. WTF THAT WAS GOOD. I just hope Sam is Sam and not... idk Samifer or what. But well, they said they'd wrap the Apocalypse shit with this season, so... and now he's totally going to yank Dean out of domesticity next season, right?

9. DEAN AND SAM IN THE CAR WHILE CASTIEL WAS SLEEPING. Precious.

10. Bobby. Period.

What I wasn't okay with:

11. WHAT THE FUCK WAS WITH DEAN AND CASTIEL THIS EPISODE. Re Dean's supposedly lack of reaction to Cas dying: he barely paid attention to ANYTHING in the last eps and that death was.. was like when you see the shark first in Jaws, when it's just so out of the blue that you don't expect that. I just was blinking and was like WHAT, so okay with that, fine, I'll pass it.

Also, I totally buy that Cas would want to go back. Because he's doing that out of what he thinks he's right, not because he's someone's bitch. God didn't say shit and he didn't have orders, so I don't have a problem with that, also because since they didn't kill him off there's a door left open for him to come back. Also, one thing I always wanted for Cas this season, that I REALLY wanted, was for him to FIND God and seeing him faithless at the end was just... jfc I couldn't take it, so I can't go and be like 'OH GOD NO CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT'. There was, and he has his faith again and I can't really complain about that.

BUT JFC DID IT HURT THEM TO GIVE THEM A GOODBYE SCENE A LITTLE LESS HORRIBLE THAN THAT? It wasn't even a goodbye. They didn't even say it. And they didn't even part in, idk, exactly good terms. 'Cause you know, some 'thanks for doing everything you did for me' or 'thanks for making me think for myself' or some crap wouldn't have hurt. I get the reasons but... JESUS JUST NO.

^ that was the one thing that had pissed me off. I can get the not hugging which I was still sadly hoping for but augh. That just left me with a bad taste. :/ You're friends, goddammit. You're both crap at it, but. WHERE IS 5x03, DAMMIT.

(Not that this kills the ship for me. Ah no. I already have some fix-it gen idea but next week, I can't write now.)

(Anyway, JEREMY CARVER PLEASE WRITE A LOT NEXT SEASON.)

What left me wtf:

12. Dean/Lisa: I wasn't exactly left wtf. I mean, I can see why. She's the white picket fence embodiment and I like her anyway and I can see why he'd go to her, but the point isn't that it kills my (not canonical anyway) ship or any crap like that. It's that if next season Dean & Sam go hunting again she can't be around or something so however it is, it's going to end badly which means Dean getting crushed again (like he isn't doing everything mostly because he promised Sam anyway) and tbh? DO NOT WANT.

13. Michael!Adam going into the pit with Lucifer: plot-wise, it worked. The rest wise, was WTF. O___O it should take a looot more than new sheriff in town Cas to solve such a fucking mess O__O

14. Poor Adam, btw. ;__; even tho I liked him better in young!John version.

15. BOBBY SOLD HIS SOUL AND NO ONE ADDRESSES IT? O____________________O and where's Crowley on that? The fact that they totally ignore that bit made me go O___O.

16. ONLY BOBBY HUGS PEOPLE? JFC. A DEAN/SAM ONE EVEN? NOTHING. Yeah I complain about hugs lacking.

17. God!Chuck: I LIKE it, I want to like it, but... if he was God all along? Dude, it's awesome that God hid in CHUCK, but... Castiel never saw it? The amulet never burned? He hung out with fan girls? Well, that'd be actually LOLsome, but. But. And what, he was God even in 5x04? I want to like it but either Kripke breaks it down to me in an interview or it's... er. Weak?

Also, CHUCK/BECKYYYY. ;____; Also Raphael destroys Cas in 4x22 right there AND THEY DON'T KNOW? I mean, he's God, but. It's just that it was out of the blue, so... duh. I need to digest that maybe.

Tbh I'd rather think that as someone theorized Chuck ascended to Heaven as a regular prophet. :/

Overall:

18. As a SERIES finale, it'd have been bad. As a season finale, especially this season, it worked fine for me apart from a) the Cas/Dean issue b) Bobby's soul being sold not being addressed. I liked it, I liked it a lot, but it had its flaws and it probably wasn't as good as the other four maybe. Idk but it wasn't the utter crap I read recced in places. It wasn't even the S1/S2/S4 one, but it still was good imo and I liked it and I have my issues with it but hey. There's fic for that. I might have some other thoughts about it later, when I re-watch the vporn too. For now, that's all, also because I need to head out, lol.

AW DAMMIT WHEN IS SEPTEMBER? ;____________________; I'LL FEEL SO ALONE WITHOUT MY FRIDAY MADE OF PRETTY PEOPLE AND ANGST. ;__;
 
 
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Big Bag of Weird: TVD Damon/Alaricgehirnstuerm on May 14th, 2010 06:07 pm (UTC)
I'LL FEEL SO ALONE WITHOUT MY FRIDAY MADE OF PRETTY PEOPLE AND ANGST. ;__;
LMAO! Word.

Gaaaaah, Vampire Diaries was SO GOOD! And ALARIC IS NOT DEAD! Okay, truth to be told, I knew Alaric was on the safe list. Because I got ridiculously attached to him that I actually googled "Will Alaric survive". Pathetic, I know, but I'm sure you understand. I'm very attached to my teacher. Btw, I wonder... if I'd had a history teacher like that in highschool... would my grades have been better or worse? *lol*

I'm still a bit incoherent. And I think I'm gonna rewatch the episode now. AAAAAAAAH! How am I gonna survive the hiatus? I shall read and write lots and lots of fanfiction.
the female ghost of tom joad: the vampire porn alaricjanie_tangerine on May 17th, 2010 04:37 pm (UTC)
IKR? Friday was my favorite day of the week, with all the awesome that it started with! :D

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HE WASN'T! Well, I was spoiled for that too but when I learned that it made me very happy because it meant all my favorites were safe, lolol. I didn't exactly search for it because I was wanting Chuck spoilers and there was a question about his fate in some round-up of spoilers thing, but I didn't complain when I learned that. AND I DO UNDERSTAND INDEED. ALAAARIC. <333

And yeah, I need to re-watch that too. I didn't pay it nearly enough the attention I should've, but then again I was with two people who don't watch it, so... XD and fanfiction seems an awesome way to survive hiatus!
fullonswayzeed on May 14th, 2010 06:12 pm (UTC)
I can't read your SPN review because everything I read or see about it makes me tear up or cry again. :/ It was so emotionally draining.

But I will say this of TVD:

1) I'm really happy Alaric is alive.
2) Damon's character development is being handled so beautifully and I love it.
3) The scene with Jeremy and Damon KILLED me. It was my favorite.
4) I feel really bad about John dying because in the end he wanted to try with Elena. :/
the female ghost of tom joad: the vampire porn HAS A PLOT Y/Yjanie_tangerine on May 17th, 2010 04:39 pm (UTC)
Weell, it was a draining ep. for sure. :( I liked it though. I had a couple of issues with it but it was emotionally draining INDEED.

Re VD:

1) THIS, THIS, THIS. ALARIIC. <33
2) IKR? They're doing such a great job with him. Which makes me happy. A lot.
3) MINE TOO, SO MUCH. SO MUCH.
4) Me too. :( Also I was really digging having David Anders back in something I watched. :(
Terra: SN-Dean/Cas It's DEMONS DAMMITpenguinfaery on May 14th, 2010 08:47 pm (UTC)
Also, I totally buy that Cas would want to go back. Because he's doing that out of what he thinks he's right, not because he's someone's bitch. God didn't say shit and he didn't have orders, so I don't have a problem with that, also because since they didn't kill him off there's a door left open for him to come back

Yeah I won't be happy if he's like "I'm in heaven and never coming back, bye!" but going up to scope things out...yeah I understand.

Bobby's so manly he can hug people Andmakeoutwithdemons. and it's fine.

Yeah I like chuck, but I wish they could have addressed...like I would even have bought that he MADE those things not happen (being God and all) but that it was dealt with?

And yeah, where the hell was Crowley? Wtf.
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural dean/cas bffs <3janie_tangerine on May 17th, 2010 04:51 pm (UTC)
Crowley not being in this was probably the hugest finale plot hole ever. O_O I mean BOBBY SOLD HIS SOUL O_o unless he and Crowley become canon and hole up together at Bobby's place having lots of sex or whatever I can't see it being ignored like that ://

Chuck was weird. On one side it made sense, but on the other side the fact that he only acted out in the END by giving Dean that info made... no sense. Also really, he lets Cas explode in his house just like that? O_o fine, he brought him back anyway, but... idk O_o

I can see Cas going back up to scope things out. I just wish they handled it with more delicacy..

Bobby's so manly he can hug people Andmakeoutwithdemons. and it's fine.

This is probably the truest thing that has been said about the finale.
Terrapenguinfaery on May 18th, 2010 01:45 am (UTC)
Yeah it seemed really weird....even ignoring the GIANT PLOTTY BITS with Crowley...I can't really imagine him not wanting to be around to see what happens, in some aspect.

As much as I think the thing with Chuck was AWESOME it was also clearly not intended when Chuck first showed up. They do have the handy handwave of "He's God." so can get rid of a lot of the inconsistencies, but it was...not very consistent.

Bobby is just one of those guys...he doesn't need to act manly. He just is.
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the female ghost of tom joadjanie_tangerine on May 17th, 2010 04:39 pm (UTC)
Pretty much THIS.
martu89: Supernatural: Dean ç______________çmartu89 on May 14th, 2010 09:34 pm (UTC)
Io non so seriamente che dire. Ho appena finito di vedere la puntata e quindi non l'ho digerita, dovrò vederla almeno un altro milione di volte per capirla a fondo/somatizzarla/etcetc.

Così, a caldo, direi che mi è piaciuta molto. Nonostante un paio di cose che hai detto anche tu. La cosa Dean/Lisa mi ha lasciata un po' perplessa, mmh. LA TOTALE MANCANZA DI DEAN/CAS MI HA FATTO INCAZZARE DA MORIRE. Voglio dire, capisco tutto l'apocalisse incipiente Adam!Michael, Sam!Lucifer etc etc, ma un CAVOLO DI ABBRACCIO POTEVANO DARSELO/UNO SGUARDO AFFETTUOSO-COMPLICE/DEAN CHE VERSA UNA MEZZA LACRIMA. PORCAMISERIA. La morte di Castiel tra l'altro è stata sconcertante. In quel momento ho stoppato un secondo e pensato "ehi, è morto troppo velocemente, non potrà esserlo veramente, DAI." ...e infatti!xD
Riguardo a un Cas nella sesta stagione so solo una cosa LO VOGLIO. Mi rendo conto che quando commento in genere SPN finisco quasi esclusivamente per parlare di lui etc (SONO NOIOSA E MONOTEMATICA, PERDONAMI), quindi non oso immaginare di cosa potrei mai parlare se nella nuova stagione non ci sarà! LOL! A parte gli scherzi, credo sia un personaggio che può dare ancora molto alla serie, inoltre voglio che incontri dio e gli riconosca che, alle fine, lui è stato il più fedele di tutti! ;________;

Di altro non saprei che dire, a parte, che non ho detto ma era implicito, che Sam è statao MERAVIGLIOSO. Sono davvero felice per come si è comportato per l'intera stagione. Ti dirò che non lo avevo mai amato tanto e non credevo sarei mai arrivata ad amarlo davvero, e invece. ;____;

BOBBY. Che altro dovrei dire? Crowley, where the hell are you?!

Ah! Ultima cosa.
CAS, ARE YOU GOD?
Dean ha finalmente espresso il pensiero generale da due stagioni a questa parte
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural dean 2.0janie_tangerine on May 17th, 2010 05:06 pm (UTC)
Concordo pienamente col primo paragrafo. Avrò mooolto da digerire in merito.. ;)

E' probabile che dalla review sembri che non mi sia piaciuta granchè ma non è vero, MI E' PIACIUTA XDD e anche tanto, ma ci stanno quelle due-tre cosette che o ci stavano abbastanza a cazzo o che mi hanno fatto rimanere un po' così -> O__________O'''

EEEEEH CAZZO, UN CAVOLO DI ABBRACCIO POTEVANO DARSELO SI' >___< GIURO SE NON SUCCEDE NELLA SESTA AMMAZZO KRIPKE O CHI PER LUI, NON CI VOLEVA UNA LAUREA ;__; anche se viaaa, non è che mancava DEL TUTTO... o almeno, via, ARE YOU GOD? era di uno shipposo allucinante. ;) ;) E avanti, CASTIEL HA TIRATO UNA MOTOLOV A MICHAEL SOLO PER DEAN!! <33

La morte di Castiel tra l'altro è stata sconcertante. In quel momento ho stoppato un secondo e pensato "ehi, è morto troppo velocemente, non potrà esserlo veramente, DAI." ...e infatti!xD

Idem XD sono stata i due minuti dopo a dire 'ok, sto calma, sto calma, SE NON SI RISOLVE ENTRO CINQUE MINUTI SCLERO' XDD

finisco quasi esclusivamente per parlare di lui etc (SONO NOIOSA E MONOTEMATICA, PERDONAMI), quindi non oso immaginare di cosa potrei mai parlare se nella nuova stagione non ci sarà! LOL!

Pfffff. E' il mio attuale personaggio preferito DI OGNI CRISTO DI TELEFILM CHE VEDO, non credere che non sia monotematica anche io XDD prego, fai pure e sii monotematica quanto vuoi ;) ;)

Eeeh. Voglio anche io. Anche se, se Chuck = Dio, il momento che Cas lo scopre farà headdesk per tutto il resto della sua vita visto che praticamente ce l'aveva sotto il naso XDDD

SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM AMORE MIO ;__; non che sia mai stato il mio preferito in assoluto, povero amore, ma mi è sempre stato simpatico e questa stagione E' STATO PARTICOLARMENTE FANTASTICO AWWW <33

Eh. Cazzo stava Crowley? Perchè qualcuno s'è venduto l'anima qui O_O

Dean ha finalmente espresso il pensiero generale da due stagioni a questa parte

ESATTAMENTE, XD
catoasapun: [SPN] Castiel - gazecatoasapun on May 15th, 2010 12:38 am (UTC)
SAM. SAM. SAM. OMG I LOVE YOU SO VERY MUCH AND I'M SO PROUD OF YOU.
THIS THIS THIS. He got my love back.

I DON'T CARE I WAS SOBBING ANYWAY.
ME TOO, BB. ME TOO. IDEK.


7. Cas' face when he came back and healed Dean/revived Bobby. GOD. THAT WAS WORTH THE ENTIRE EP IMO.

YES THIS. OH, CAS, BB, I LOVE YOU SFM.

I totally agree with you on the whole thing about Dean and Castiel. I mean... WHUT. After all that.... that's it? Srsly? NO. JUST NO. They deserved a better goodbye than that. I seriously hope it wasn't really a goodbye anyway - I NEED MISHA IN MY LIFE - but especially because of that. It was cheap.

I hope we get to see Crowley give Bobby his soul back. :)
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural castiel 3.0janie_tangerine on May 17th, 2010 05:09 pm (UTC)
IKR? He never exactly lost mine (Bon Jovi fans need to stick together!) but THIS SEASON HE WAS JUST PERFECT. <33333

LET'S SOB TOGETHER THEN. CHEESE? WHO CARES. *CLINGS*

IRK???!! That moment was just so beautiful. He got back his faith and his angel-ness and.. and.. AND. <333 Also, it was shippy. Say whatever you want, it was shippy.

fter all that.... that's it? Srsly? NO. JUST NO. They deserved a better goodbye than that. I seriously hope it wasn't really a goodbye anyway - I NEED MISHA IN MY LIFE - but especially because of that. It was cheap.

Word. Weeell. If it was never intended as a goodbye and it means that Cas spends next season popping in and being like 'duh, I always planned to come back and watch over you, so what?' then I CAN be half-okay with it but still. That scene was just so not on par.

Translation: Jeremy Carver should've written it. ;)

I hope it takes moar kissing. :D
All mighty voices in my head, I'll never doubt youburningchaos on May 15th, 2010 03:03 am (UTC)
12. Dean/Lisa: I wasn't exactly left wtf. I mean, I can see why. She's the white picket fence embodiment and I like her anyway and I can see why he'd go to her, but the point isn't that it kills my (not canonical anyway) ship or any crap like that. It's that if next season Dean & Sam go hunting again she can't be around or something so however it is, it's going to end badly which means Dean getting crushed again (like he isn't doing everything mostly because he promised Sam anyway) and tbh? DO NOT WANT.

OMG THIS.

I am pretty much with you on everything you said in both shows. You expressed yourself way more coherently that I would have.
the female ghost of tom joad: tangerinesjanie_tangerine on May 17th, 2010 05:10 pm (UTC)
IKR? I just... damn, the poor guy suffered enough. Also killing Lisa AND the kid? DNW. I mean, I'm not shipping it or whatever but really, it's decency. :/

And thanks! :D LOL, and me thinking that I was being incoherent. ;)
All mighty voices in my head, I'll never doubt youburningchaos on May 17th, 2010 07:17 pm (UTC)
I was totally incoherent after the episode. I sat there for a good ten minutes and said WTF. I am still saying it. Honestly I have no idea if I even want a S6, because this so neatly tied everything except Sam lurking, off.

Plus I really don't see Dean being happy tied down. Also is he doing it for the right reasons? Not from the way Chuck said it he isn't. That can't make for a happy relationship.
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the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural deanjanie_tangerine on May 17th, 2010 05:22 pm (UTC)
Pff. Over the top = GOOD. Then again I like Keith Urban, sap is my thing. ;)

Yeah me too. Though. CAS. :((

I like the way you see it. If Cas didn't think of it as a goodbye, even, it's fitting, so I'm trying to hold my judgment about that when I know if Misha is in S6 or not. Because if he is then it's... well, better. If he isn't... then it sucks major ass. :// You're right about the seeing Dean in Heaven again thing though.

And Dean obviously wanted a goodbye, with the comment he made after Cas left.

IKR? ;__; Dean, be more straightforward, too, though. You know that socially impaired angels are socially impaired (not that Dean isn't, too, but...).

If Lisa is a Jess-like catalyst I think that Dean wouldn't come back from the emotional breakdown or something. Which is why I don't like it. I mean, I'd like it and I'd be happy if he got some stability even if he's doing it mostly because he promised Sam, but if they need to give him EVEN MORE MANPAIN... augh. NO. I hope she gets out of that okay, too. :(
bold_seer: dean/castielbold_seer on May 17th, 2010 09:11 pm (UTC)
I watched it and hated it. Really hated it. Like I want to quit this ship, fic, fandom and LJ right the frak now - which I thought about for a minute - hated it.

Then I watched it - or parts of it - again. Feeling very zen atm. Misha!Castiel as a regular(ly recurring character) in S6 - I'm definitely in! If not, hmmm. Not cool with the happy family ending (AT ALL!) or with the smug attitude I got from it, but it's okay otherwise. And fandom is fandom. :D

Surprisingly enough, I'm sure, I loved Castiel - here too. Poor Sam! :( Loled at the Star Wars line, though. DEAN, I HATE YOU SO M- Well, the first time, yes. IDK. Is it strange that I thought it a betrayal towards Sam (not like that!) that Dean went to you-know-who? Even though he promised to. DNW. Still zen, yes. But it was worth the watch, if only for that beautiful, beautiful scene with Dean and angel again!Castiel. *points to icon*
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural + nick cave = otpjanie_tangerine on May 18th, 2010 09:50 am (UTC)
YOU CAN'T QUIT THE SHIP OR LJ, BRAIN TWIN ;___; DO NOT! there are already too many people quitting ;__; *clings*

I didn't think it was that bad tbh. I had my issues which are there so I won't go into that again but... idk, it wasn't epically awesome or as good as S1/2/4 but I can't say I hated the whole thing. Also yeah, MISHA AS A REGULARLY RECURRING PERSON IN S6 would make everything a lot better. *cough* A REAL lot better. And well, I wouldn't be cool with the happy family ending but a) it isn't happy because Dean is doing that for Sam which is enough to make it seem doomed and b) it obviously won't last, so if it had been a series finale I'd have been pissed, but as it is I'm not. I just don't want that to be fodder for EVEN MOAR ANGST. :/

I loved Cas so much too! :D And yeah POOR SAM. *loves* And awww, poor Dean. He's just completely disconnected and has too many issues, lol. And well, Dean went there because Sam told him to which actually sounds more like a betrayal to the poor woman who was just randomly brought back because she's the most white picket fence of all of Dean's love interests who didn't bite it, but... idk. I dnw that mostly because he didn't really choose it. WHATEVER, THE SCENE IN YOUR ICON WAS WORTH THE ENTIRE EP IMO. *cough*
bold_seer: deanbold_seer on May 18th, 2010 10:40 am (UTC)
I WOULD NEVER EVER DO THAT!!! And, brain to my twin, I'm so glad you're not one of them, because that would make me miserable, tbqh. :) No, my faith in it all is fully restored by now! Besides, I'm totally the captain who wouldn't leave their sinking ship - which this is not! - just because they were so damn stubborn. XD

It actually wasn't at all! (In retrospect, and upon re-watching, the verdict is an okay episode.) But I guess I expected something else entirely, and this was my first real crisis of faith with this show, so for a minute I was like What has The Mentalist (fandom) got to offer?. Not as much. And it wouldn't have worked as a series finale.

I do question the poor woman's judgment, though. Really. And I feel sorry for Dean, too. It's a mess. :/ BUT I RE-WATCHED THAT SCENE. <3 And loved Dean's line in the car, when Castiel had disappeared. I just wish Dean got a grip. Well, Cas, too, but Dean more so. So, when is it September/January? ;)

Ooops. I still need to watch Lost, but it's approximately thirty degrees and I can't be bothered to do anything.
zsavagebelle on May 18th, 2010 04:21 am (UTC)
A couple of things or maybe more than a couple:
1. If I ever get the chance to visit Italy again (which I will make sure happens), I would love to visit you, grab coffee and chat! It would be a highlight of my life.
2. I'm pretty sure you've seen this but in case you haven't I thought I would send it to you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WaHYpA5ns0
3. I'm not sure I want the sixth season to come. I don't think I'm ready for the show to go off the air. Oh well I guess that's why I have until September to get over it right? I mean usually CW shows go on for AGES before getting dumped. I know what Kripke said but ...okay I won't be selfish.
4. Marry me? I mean I can bake, I'm good for conversation, I can clean, and I'm full of talents (as well as a very deep passion for Supernatural). You can say no of course, it's just your love for SPN makes my love for you go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^.^
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural future!cas ;___;janie_tangerine on May 18th, 2010 09:54 am (UTC)
(first thing: I didn't forget about the D/C recs. Actually I think I'll do a post because I missed answering your comment back then but I WILL get to that. ;) )

That said..

1. I'd love it!!! <333 Please do come and please do have coffee with me? ;)
2. LOL, I WAS THERE ACTUALLY. ;) But thanks for linking that anyway, I hadn't made it a favorite so now I did. ;)
3. Idek. I don't want to be fandom-less because if Lost ends then SPN would be my second one and if it's over then I'm left with the vampire diaries which... er, I can't have just THAT one, you know XD on the other side... I don't know, I guess I'll judge when S6 comes and see that they don't fuck it up or jump the shark or whatever.
4. GOOD! I can't bake but I'm good at cleaning and we can split stuff up. ;) <3333333
zsavagebelle on May 19th, 2010 04:51 am (UTC)
1. In about two years when I finish university I will be traveling the world and you will amongst the top priority people/places to visit! :) And maybe I can bake and we can have a Supernatural marathon!
2. lol I was wondering why the place looked so familiar and now I know it was because I saw it in your pictures! I forgot it was called Jus in Bello though. lol oops!
3. I heard they're doing a time jump for season 6. I'm not sure if that's good or bad. I guess we'll see. And whatever fandom you join, let me know! I sort of fell off the Lost fandom and now it's only Supernatural. And I'm behind on Vampire Diaries.
4. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural dean 2.0janie_tangerine on May 19th, 2010 07:37 pm (UTC)
1. Eee, awesome! I'll probably still be here finishing uni too. Soo, I'll be waiting! And SPN marathon sounds AWESOME! :D
2. LOL, well, I took enough pics of the place lolol. They're still making that memory on my camera crash, oooops.
3. Idk about that. I heard it too but I'll just wait? I mean, it could either go bad or be awesome so ha, wait and see = best course of action? And ha, I can't blame you for Lost. I mean, I barely get wtf goes on half of the time. But the VDiaries/pornography became good! ;)
4. SOUNDS LIKE A DEAL!!
Fangirlage like WHOA.: SPN // Becky&Chuck - OTPhopelessfangirl on May 18th, 2010 05:52 pm (UTC)
OMG, I'm so late replying to this, sorry!

VPorn:

DAMON FTW. His scene with Jeremy was excellent.

Anna ;_____________; I really liked her. Why do all the Annas I like end up getting killed?

AND THEN THE END, OMGWTF. THAT WAS EPIC. VPorn, you seriously impressed me.

___________

SPN:

Okay, I'm glad I had time to settle down and really think about this episode. My first reactions were that I enjoyed it, but it felt a little anticlimactic. But the more I think about it, the more I just love it. And I realized it felt anticlimactic because everything that you would expect to happen happened, so there were no real big surprises or twists. Sam defeated Lucifer, everything went back to normal. Knowing that this is the end of the 5-year arc, I think I would've actually been decently happy with that as a series finale... *strokes imaginary beard* Well, apart from Sam, cause I want him to have a happier ending that just showing up outside Lisa's house all mysterious. But it had the bare bones of what I would have wanted the series finale to be, it just would've needed to extend on a few other things for it to have really been satisfactory.

OMG, ALL OF CHUCK'S WRITING MADE ME SO WARM AND FUZZY. There was definitely a high cheese factor with this episode, but I love cheese, so I couldn't give a crap. ;)

I am such a boob for not even thinking that both Bobby AND Cas could be killed. My face right after Cas went Arzt and right on through the commercial break was DDDDDDDDD= to the extreme.

Also, one thing I always wanted for Cas this season, that I REALLY wanted, was for him to FIND God and seeing him faithless at the end was just... jfc I couldn't take it, so I can't go and be like 'OH GOD NO CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT'. There was, and he has his faith again and I can't really complain about that.

I'm so with you there. Maybe that's another reason why this finale seemed a little anticlimactic: there were things they set up this season that they didn't follow through with, Cas trying to find God being one of them. I mean yes, Sam and Dean were informed that God left the building of His own accord, but still, Cas could have been shaken by that but still try to find him (and eventually succeed). That would've actually been cooler, cause if Cas never ever gave up on finding God, then maybe God saving him in this episode would've seemed more poignant. Maybe Cas could've restored God's faith.

GAH, I agree on the lack of hugs. No Sassy hug (even though there was an OPPORTUNE MOMENT FOR ONE), no Dean/Cas goodbye hug, NO GODDAMN SAM/DEAN HUG, LIKE YOU SAID. WHAT IS THIS SHIT? Apparently they only hug each other when one of them has come back from the dead, not when one is heading right into certain death. x__x

I agree on everything you said re: Dean/Lisa. It definitely has the potential to get messy next season, and that is very much DNW, especially because it's the idea of Lisa that makes her important, not so much Lisa herself, so it'll be hard to really get emotionally invested in her perspective. I'm dreading that aspect a little bit. (BUT I HOPE THEY CAN GET THE KID WHO PLAYS BEN BACK, CAUSE I TOTES NEED TO SEE PSEUDO-DAD!DEAN AGAIN ♥)

Lack of talk about Bobby's soul bothered me too. I hope it was just a lack of time thing and not something they're just going to forget completely next season. HAY WRITERS, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET MARK SHEPPARD BACK ON THE SHOW. MAKE IT HAPPEN.

Okay, here's my take on the Chuck thing: I think maybe he's God's vessel, but the only time we've ever seen God in Chuck's body was at the very end when he disappeared. He had a nice clean white shirt on and seemed more serene (read: less slobby and neurotic like Chuck normally is), so I think it's possible that all the other times we'd seen Chuck he was actually Chuck and only in the last scene was he God. I dunno, maybe it was just a flub on the writers' behalf, but that's my only explanation for Chuck suddenly being God.

Meanwhile, I'm sad about Chuck/Becky too! Why you so mean, show? ;___;

[/END NOVEL-LENGTH COMMENT]
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural sam kills you with his braijanie_tangerine on May 18th, 2010 06:20 pm (UTC)
EEEE NOVEL LENGTH MAKES ME HAPPY.

Vporn = IF NEXT SEASON IS LIKE THIS FINALE I'LL BE SRSLY IMPRESSED. I'm still shocked that this show ever became GOOD, but hey. NOT COMPLAINING. Damon + Jeremy = YES I loved it so much. And KATHERINE WTFFFFFFF. And yeah, Anna = ;______________; what's with that?!!

SPN: word about it being anticlimatic because it really did deliver everything it was supposed to. I mean, it had been building up to that, we kind of knew where it was going to go anyway, right? Last year it was probably more surprising stuff but I can't really say that it was bad just because it didn't deliver on shock value. If it had been a series finale I think I wouldn't be as satisfied (or at least: they should've addressed Bobby's soul and given Dean & Cas a much more decent parting just to say a couple of things), but as a season finale it was good imo.

CHUCK'S CHEESE MAKES US HAPPY. AND I LIKE THE CHEESE SO WHATEVER REALLY.

Oh God. Cas going Arzt is so going to be on the icons I'll eventually make out of this if you give me permission because LOL YES? XD thankfully I didn't have commercials but I swear I WAS ABOUT TO FLIP.

there were things they set up this season that they didn't follow through with, Cas trying to find God being one of them.

Word. I think they needed two hours tbh, maybe it'd have been more coherent. I'd have LOVED it if Cas was the one restoring God's faith but hey, who knows. Maybe he actually did in some way? After all he DID come through for Dean even if he just wanted to go get wasted, lol. Anyway I can't get pissed that Cas gains his faith back again. He's not back to being a hammer without feelings, goddammit. I just wish people would stop saying that because it's obv. not true and HE MAKES DECISIONS FOR HIMSELF NOW, FUCK. ;__;

IKR ABOUT THE SASSY HUG? That was such a GOLD occasion. ;__; And yeah, no Dean/Sam either? NO DEAN/CAS EITHER? Fuck this, if the S6 premiere isn't a hug fest I'll kill whoever writes it, lol. (Unless it's Jeremy Carver.)

Yeah, that. It's the IDEA of Lisa indeed, which imo is unfair to both a) her, b) Dean, c) Ben, d) everyone else. I mean, Dean doing it because he promised Sam = WTF, and if they need a catalyst to send Dean hunting again... JEEZ NO. Or at least don't kill her/the poor kid in the process. BUT YES SOME BEN/DEAN INTERACTION WOULD BE SO GOOD. <3

YES I NEED TO SEE IT AS AN OCCASION TO GET MARK SHEPPARD BACK ON SHOW. Tho really, ignoring that AND Crowley was kind of huge. I mean, I get they probably didn't have time but IT'S HUGE SHIT. O_o

I like your Chuck theory and it's actually what I had thought too. Maybe God also made Chuck ascend to Heaven while wearing him? Idk but thinking that God = Chuck all this time leaks everywhere, as much as I want to like it because it's cool. Also because I can wrap my head around God hanging with fangirls at conventions, but I can't do it about GOD ASKING DEAN FOR TOILER PAPER IN THE END.

CHUCK/BECKYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ;_______________________; OTP, OTP ;___; why why why? Maybe she ascended again! Maybe she becomes a new prophet! IDK BUT NOOOOOO. *clings to ship* Damn, I should start shipping Ash/Pamela. They're both dead and hanging in the same places, so THEY WON'T RUIN THAT FOR ME, RIGHT?
Fangirlage like WHOA.: SPN // Bobby&Crowley - Let's mack a dealhopelessfangirl on May 20th, 2010 05:33 pm (UTC)
Cas going Arzt is so going to be on the icons I'll eventually make out of this if you give me permission because LOL YES? XD

Oh my God, yes, by all means! I don't have any rights on that line! lol. You're sweet for asking though!

Word. I think they needed two hours tbh, maybe it'd have been more coherent.

Agreed. It felt a bit rushed (maybe another reason why it felt anticlimactic), and it definitely could've benefitted from more time.

I just wish people would stop saying that because it's obv. not true and HE MAKES DECISIONS FOR HIMSELF NOW, FUCK. ;__;

Exactly! Did people not hear the "You're the new sheriff in town" line? Clearly no one's in charge of Cas anymore and he's going home out of -- what is it? Oh yeah, FREE WILL. Besides, I can't blame him for wanting to at least return to see the state of the place. I mean, it is his home and that's why he was so depressed all season that he had been banished from it, even though the choices he made were the right ones.

Idk but thinking that God = Chuck all this time leaks everywhere, as much as I want to like it because it's cool.

Yeah, if they intended for Chuck to be God all this time or just added it as a cool twist at the end it would be lame. Especially when you think about The End, cause I don't think God would be in charge of rationing toilet paper. XD

Damn, I should start shipping Ash/Pamela. They're both dead and hanging in the same places, so THEY WON'T RUIN THAT FOR ME, RIGHT?

LOL THAT IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA. Pamela's totally suited for the Roadhouse anyway, so I'm sure she has a grand time chilling with Ash in the Roadhouse in the Sky. =D