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30 April 2011 @ 10:35 pm
spn 6x19 'mommy dearest'  
First: sorry for not answering to comments - I have 14000 words to go for my bigbang story which I started re-writing like three times in three different fics but this one will stick - and so expect answers sometime tomorrow. I'm not ignoring you. I just need to get this thing out before midnight tomorrow. XD

That said: I can't not react at this. It will be mostly incoherent and on the short side, but still I need to express my feelings.

1. Okay, first thing out of the way: I love Cas's arc this season. There, said it, don't kill me. Also, if it seems like he's gone dark side, he hasn't. Have a look at next week's promo, then we can talk about it. Also: he's still my favorite character and he'll stay that. Also: MISHA COLLINS YOU CAN ACT. THE WAY HE LOOKED WHEN HE WAITED FOR DEAN AND SAM TO COME BACK. THE UNBELIEVABLE. WHEN HE SAID HIS FEELINGS WERE HURT. THE BURNING INSIDE HIM. HOW HE CRAPPILY LIED AT THE END. OH CAS. OH YOU. WHAT ARE YOU DOING, WHAT ARE YOU DOING.

2. That stated, he's just being the third honorary Winchester here. I mean, Sam and Dean both did a lot of crappy things for good reasons (or so they thought) and Cas here is trying not to bring another Apocalypse around - if he's doing it in crappy ways, well, he's not the first to do it. I'm not really wanting to believe that they'll actually turn him evil - he wouldn't have done that in S4, I doubt he'll do that now. Also it totally makes sense with what happened in the Titanic episode - he was lying when he said that it was Balthazar's gig with unsinking the ship, but he wasn't lying when he said he wanted them to remember what he's doing this for. OH CASTIEL ;____; YOU SHOULD HAVE JUST STAYED FALLEN. I don't know if he's making me more sad right now or if f!Castiel made me sadder. Oh dear I like angsty characters don't I.

3. THAT STATED ALL THE DEAN/CAS WAS GLORIOUS AND I'M TOTALLY AFRAID THAT IT MEANS THAT NEXT EPISODE I'LL CRY, but then again... well. I don't think that Dean will like much what's happening (though I was endeared that he didn't even think once that Cas might have lied about Crowley - AWWW MY SHIP) and he'll be pissed at first round but... I really need to think that he'd come around. I know he'll forgive Sam everything and not so much the rest of the world, but I just hope they do come around. Maybe in the finale? Maybe. AAAAH SHOW.

4. That stated... HI CROWLEY.

I can't say I'm sorry you're back. I like you, as a villain. I've always liked you. I still like you. And I can't help wondering what's got him to work with Cas - I refuse to think it's a Ruby & Sam situation and that he's tricking Cas into something, I highly doubt that Cas is such an idiot. I guess it's because of the souls in purgatory, hhhhmmm.

5. This whole thing just strengthens my theory that Cas wants to juice himself up on souls in order to obliterate Raphael. I'm highly doubting it'd come to that, but.

6. That said, SAM YOU WERE PARTICULARLY ADORABLE. I LIKE.

7. DEAN BETWEEN THIS EP AND THE LAST ONE I JUST WANT TO MARRY YOU. JEFFERSON STARSHIP. JEFFERSON STARSHIP. EXCUSE ME WHILE I LAUGH LIKE A MANIAC AND CONGRATULATE HIM ON THE BEST NAME EVER LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. And when he got the mother of all to bite him - DEAN YOU WERE FANTASTIC. I KNEW YOU WERE GONNA DO IT AND - I LOVE YOU. REALLY. Also Jensen's been looking good lately. huuuuh. *drools*

8. Oh Bobby. I love his face. And I love that he was being all sympathy with Cas. I love the two of them having scenes. Also I like that finally someone actually DID realize Cas is lying. Considering how bad he is at it, it was high time.

9. Mother of all, I won't miss you. Also I'm sure Dean and Sam didn't approve of her wearing Mary's face, but at least Samantha Smith was way better than the virgin!girl or whatevs.

10. Dean and Cas going together to the doctor's place - oh my heart, sure, remind me of 5x03 and make me go ;____________; all over again won't you.

11. In short: I need next week to be there now and someone to watch it with me/to clutch at because I won't survive it. Also I need fic where Dean, Sam and Balthazar close Cas down in the panic room, talk sense into him and it ends with group hug at worst and orgy at best. Yeah, yeah, right, wishful thinking. (Also I'd like to know Balthy's degree of involvement but I'm pretty sure he has to know stuff. Oooh angel storyline if only they spent more time on you this season, but that's okay, with how these last episodes have been.)

12. In conclusion: I'm a very satisfied fangirl, I'm also scared shitless for next week, Misha Collins I love your face and I really need to hit 10000 words so read you all tomorrow. Sorry if I don't answer comments now but as stated, I need to finish that thing. *waves*
 
 
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Patent Counsel for Adrian Veidt and Tony Starkakemi42 on April 30th, 2011 10:19 pm (UTC)
Hi BTW...I found you via a comment on an SPN thread and added you. Looking for more people to talk Cas with. :)

I think it would be kind of boring if Cas was just pumping up on souls to get tougher. It would be the Sam story line all over again. Plus Cas did not seem to enjoy using Bobby for that purpose.

Also I need fic where Dean, Sam and Balthazar close Cas down in the panic room, talk sense into him and it ends with group hug at worst and orgy at best.

Yes! Let me know when you find some.
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural castiel #2janie_tangerine on May 3rd, 2011 08:44 am (UTC)
Hi there! *adds back* sorry for the lateness answering but let's say that the whole writing-14000-words-in-a-day wiped me out much.

There's probably more than that, but the idea of an actual war machine seems kind of ridiculous when you say it like that. I like that -he- is supposed to become that, regardless of how much he enjoys it, but I guess we'll find out next week y/y?

Sure thing ;) I wish I had time for it but I really don't. SOMEONE ELSE WRITE IT PLEASE.
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the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural balthazarjanie_tangerine on May 3rd, 2011 08:45 am (UTC)
BUT THEY DEPRIVED ME OF CAS'S FACE FOR MOST OF IT ;____; though yeah you're dead on. ;) nice for them to twist it like this but MORE CAS, I'D HAVE LIKED. (or more Balthazar as well.)
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the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural castiel #2janie_tangerine on May 3rd, 2011 08:57 am (UTC)
OR WHEN HE'S ANGSTING. IDK THE MORE HE ANGSTS THE PRETTIER HE GETS. But right? I mean. CASFACE, YOU WEREN'T AROUND ENOUGH.
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the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural castiel 5.0janie_tangerine on May 3rd, 2011 09:37 am (UTC)
YES THAT EXACTLY.

I ALSO MEAN LIKE THIS.



(I'm obviously studying this morning. Mmmmhhhh.)
joy: crowley » first name: greatestjoyyjpg on May 1st, 2011 02:50 am (UTC)
I think a good 80% of my Castiel-related anxiety has...um. Well. Disappeared. Along with most of my general anxiety about the rest of the season because this episode filled me with the happy.

My thougts, in a nutshell are: CROWLEY CROWLEY CASTIEL CASTIEL CROWLEY CASTIEL CROWLEY AND CASTIEL. Basically.

Because I never dreamed Crowley would be involved and OH MY GOD I DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS I JUST WANT MORRRRREEEEE. My two favorites working together. YES PLEASE AND THANK YOU.

I don't think Crowley is manipulating Cas. Sure, he's probably playing with Castiel's mind a little, but I don't think it's anywhere near the extent of Ruby and Sam in S4. Cas is too smart to let himself be manipulated that completely. I've heard some theories that the whole thing might have been his idea. I'm not sure what I've decided, but I haven't had this much fun theorizing since LOST. And even if I have to put off finishing the ficlets for my meme, there WILL be fic on this before Friday.

FIRST CAS WAS IN DEAN'S ASS AND THEN HE HAD A PAINFUL BURNING SENSATION. OH MY GOD. ;D

I firmly believe Cas and Dean rehearsed that "get out of my ass" scene to use in case Sam and Bobby starting getting suspicious. *nod*

I loved the four of them hanging out together, especially when it was just Cas and Dean, but...Dean was kind of a jerk. That whole thing about Cas not having his powers making him basically "a baby in a trench coat" bugged me. I thought we were past Dean being a dick to his boyfriend. Although I'm worried about the effect Cas' ~*sekrits*~ will have on his relationship with Dean...I'm kind of hoping Cas will tell him off a little, like Bobby did to both the boys in 6.04. Dean needs to realize that Cas is not his bitch. ;D
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural dean/castieljanie_tangerine on May 3rd, 2011 08:52 am (UTC)
WELL THIS EPISODE WAS MUCH HAPPY MAKING WASN'T IT ;)

ALSO YOUR THOUGHTS ARE MY THOUGHTS. Really. I just. I LOVE CROWLEY OKAY, I LIKE THIS WHOLE ILL-ADVISED PARTNERSHIP THING. And yeah word on that. Cas wouldn't be the person to get himself manipulated - he hasn't until now (well, let's not count the whole S4 brainwashing bit) so I'm on board with it being 50/50. Which on one side will make things worse when Dean finds out but OH WELL I'LL JUST SEE HOW IT GOES. And DO THEORIZE PLEASE. I like theorizing. I'm finding myself doing that too but with Lost it was funnier because I was always wrong - with SPN I'm right half of the time but then again it isn't half as insane as Lost used to be.

FIRST CAS WAS IN DEAN'S ASS AND THEN HE HAD A PAINFUL BURNING SENSATION. OH MY GOD. ;D

COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER. MY SHIIIIPPPPP.

Also they totally rehearsed that, not that it worked imo. ;)

Dean -was- kind of a jerk though this episode I might have forgiven him because a) he looked great, b) JEFFERSON STARSHIP, c) how he killed the mother = badass. But I've been wanting to smack him for being a dick to Cas half of the season, so considering that this round they gave me the painful burning/get out of my ass/I KNEW YOU WERE RIGHT and mostly, that Dean didn't even want to take into consideration the idea that Cas was lying I guess that I can be okay with it. Idk I just hopes that this whole thing means that Dean realizes that maybe if he had been less of a dick his boyfriend would have shared? *sigh* aaah, ship. What do you put me through.
lexhibition on May 1st, 2011 05:28 am (UTC)
I don't think Crowley is tricking Cas - I think they're partners, politically allied. They both want the power from purgatory, 50/50 split.

Deeeeeaaaannnnnn. I love how much FUN he was in this episode. :D
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural + nick cave = otpjanie_tangerine on May 3rd, 2011 08:53 am (UTC)
I think it's the same as well - I just don't want to read that theorizing anywhere. Because I'm sure it IS somewhere and Cas = too smart for that.

ME TOO. JEFFERSON STARSHIPS. HIS FACE. JEFFERSON STARSHIPS, I REPEAT. DEAAAN. <3333
Giulia: Spn_MaryDeane0wyn on May 1st, 2011 07:23 am (UTC)
Anch'io credo che lo scopo ultimo di Cas sia far scorta di anime per sconfiggere Raphael ed evitare l'apocalisse... sono già in ansia per l'episodio della settimana prossima e per come reagirà Dean :( Si arrabbierà da morire subito ma poi spero che cerchi di capire e parli a Cas... che ne ha proprio bisogno perchè è evidente che abbia perso un po' la bussola. da lì a diventare cattivo ce ne passa e spero che non sia quella l'intenzione degli sceneggiatori anche perchè mi sembrerebbe terribilmente OoC!
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural + nick cave = otpjanie_tangerine on May 3rd, 2011 08:56 am (UTC)
NON DIRMI DELL'ANSIA, STO MORENDO :(((( ma d'altronde se c'è la S7 e se Misha rimane (e da quello che ha detto al m&g se deduco bene non va da nessuna parte) non possono cambiare troppo lo status quo :((( ho pochi dubbi sul dover fare scorta di fazzoletti sabato però ;___; CAAAS ;___; l'incazzatura a caldo ci sarà sicuro ma insomma, Dean, a Sam gli hai perdonato TUTTO, usa un solo peso ed una sola bilancia magari >___> comunque nah, se proprio il prossimo giro va male secondo me il grande gesto di redenzione nel finale non glielo toglie nessuno. Via, OTTIMISMO!
A.vella_amor_dm on May 7th, 2011 11:03 am (UTC)
DEAN/CAS FTW!!!!!!!!! IT BE CANON.

i love your theory about the souls and i think you're right bb (haven't seen 620 yet so idk if anything major has happened)
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural dean 3.0janie_tangerine on May 7th, 2011 11:05 am (UTC)
IT IIISSSSSS. OR CLOSE TO IT ANYWAY.

I've finished it an hour ago and without spoiling you, it doesn't say anything either way regarding my theory. I mean, it doesn't say anything against it but it doesn't even confirm it, lol. (and 6x20 - I need to know what you think about it *will stand here waiting*)
A.vella_amor_dm on May 7th, 2011 11:10 am (UTC)
WELL AT ANY RATE, WE KNOW CAS LOVES DEAN. HIS HURT FACE HEN DEAN CALLED HIM A BABY IN A TRENCH COAT OMG. BE STILL MY HEART!

i saw you flailing on twitter lol. i'm so scared about what's going to happen in regard to Cas. Dear Dean, please don't hate your angel D: (feel free to settle down in a blanket fort with coffee and chocolatey goodness. i i will be a while - shall watch now and post tomorrow night)