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11 October 2012 @ 05:05 pm
supernatural 8x01 and 8x02, and other tv, and other things  
1. ... hi again. *waves* wow, this month I've been the worst at updating. *sigh* well, I'm giving you bullet points.

a) University has started again. I have sort-of-decent-classes, except for the ones that I have to study for without attending. Also I should manage to do my masters thesis with the person I want, but there's some bureaucracy drama going on over there and seriously, it's been five and a half years and I'm *still* headdesking over bureaucracy.

b) Random advice from yours truly: never put iodine tincture on you if you can help it. Long story short, I put some on my shoulder to relieve myself from mosquito-related swelling and I practically burned a hole into my skin. That happened two weeks ago. I still can't go out without gauze over it. /o\ seriously, don't ever do it.

c) I have tickets to see Gaslight Anthem in Milan! \o/ I'm so excited about it, you don't even know. \o/

d) My granddad is doing decently, or at least more decently than I thought, so at least there's that. *crosses fingers*

e) I have the new Chabon book. I'm not much far into it yet, but it's about two guys working in A USED RECORD SHOP. Needless to say that the moment I read the synopsis I was very much pleased.

2) So, TV that isn't SPN. Have all bullet points - nothing will be spoilers.

Boardwalk Empire: Richard and Van Alden are (the last one surprisingly) the best thing about this season yet. Nucky is seriously starting to scare me. Margaret has gotten slightly better since last season's fail. I appreciate that the Italian people actually sound Italian. Needs more Chalky overall. Gillian keeps on majorly creeping me out and Richard is still the best person in that bunch.

H50: the premiere was meh, also because they were seriously pushing the 'let's write shit that couldn't possibly happen according to the laws of physics' - also people need to stop dump all the angst on Chin. The second episode - I watched it the evening when I finished The Wire. Suffices to say that I totally don't remember what happened. The last one was actually delightful, also because finally they went back to the S1 formula. Can it be like that always? Thanks. Anyway, as things are whenever Danny or Chin aren't on screen I tend to tune out. :/

And a shout out to the vampire porn, which is back today and which will undoubtedly make my Friday a lot better than it is right now.

Anyway, the sad thing is that (with SPN's exception, but more on that in the next point) everything I'm watching lately seems either sub-par or just *not good enough* because I keep comparing it with The Wire, which is obviously not very smart of me since a few things can compare to it in the first place.

3. Okay, let's talk about SPN. I wanted to make a post about the premiere but I obviously didn't because a) I was too lazy, b) last week this time I was too busy trying to figure out what to do about the iodine-induced burn on my shoulder (with pitiful results) and in the end I didn't manage. So, under there there's rambling about both the premiere and the second episode.

a) SHOULD WE TALK ABOUT THE FLASHBACK IN EPISODE 2 -

Okay no. If I start on *that* now I won't discuss anything else. Therefore, less-important-stuff first.

b) So, Jeremy Carver, you >>>>> the world. Two episodes and I already like this season better than S7, which says all, but seriously. Decent writing. THEY'RE NOT HANDWAVING DEAN'S PTSD ISSUES. That enough would have been awesome, but they're also acknowledging Cas, they're not wasting time with fillers (yet) and they're having an interesting plot. YESSS.

c) Crowley, let me love you forever. The end.

d) I'm in awe of how they're dealing with Dean, actually. After the continuous handwaving of his issues last season (and the fact that no one acknowledged the state of his liver) it's actually good to see that someone did some research and is *not* making him behave like he's fine. And I love that they're doing the Purgatory flashbacks as triggered PTSD flashbacks. And stuff like that scene where he couldn't pick his snack in the premiere - YES. Thank you show.

e) I was kind of disappointed that Sam didn't bother looking for Dean but then again from his side it sorta maybe made sense. Also: Sam's hair is - I can't. It CHANGES at random INSIDE THE SAME EPISODE FROM SCENE TO SCENE. I can't. Cut it.

d) About the new people: can we keep Kevin and his mom forever? They're cool. Thank you. Other than them: the new angel (was that Samandriel?) looks interesting. They can stay, though please pick a vessel without that uniform. At least it's nice to know someone in heaven gives a shit about Cas *cough*. The gods at the auction in 8.02 were all hilarious and lol at Odin.

About Benny: I'm pretty neutral about the dude right now - I mean, I'm not in love with his face but I don't hate him either, but I *could* get behind him. Mostly, I do realize that since S6/S7 have managed to kill off EVERY SINGLE SUPPORTING CHARACTER EVER except for Cas WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD UNTIL 7.17, they do need some new blood. And while this dude seems like the least interesting version of Balthazar (well, I was like OMG ILU when Balthy showed up first, with him I'm nowhere near there yet), if he ends up turning like that - ie not exactly straight morals but interests in the right place - I can get behind it. Also, I've been advocating that Dean and/or Sam are allowed to have relationships outside themselves for ages and I've spent ages hoping that Dean would fucking get over his 'all supernatural creatures [that aren't Cas] ARE ALL EVIL AND SHOULD DIE', so if he's friends with the dude and the dude doesn't stab him in the back he can stay as far as I'm concerned. Especially because he totally doesn't threaten my ship at all from what I've seen *cough* yeah okay whatever. Still, I wish he was as awesome as Balthy was. D:

f) People, CAN WE TALK ABOUT SAM USING THOR'S HAMMER? ABOUT SAM BEING WORTHY OF MJOLNIR? ABOUT SAM HITTING ODIN WITH IT? ABOUT ODIN BEING LIKE 'OH HI BABY' AND SNUGGLING WITH IT? SERIOUSLY, WHERE ARE THE CROSSOVERS WHERE THOR SHOWS UP? Please, I need some. That was the funniest shit SPN has pulled in since - SINCE FRONTIERLAND PROBABLY. No but - Sam using Mjolnir. I'm nowhere near over it.

g) *deep breath*

NO OKAY PEOPLE

DEAN AND CASTIEL. LET'S JUST. TALK ABOUT IT. I'M STILL EMOTIONALLY DEVASTATED FROM THE ENTIRE THING BUT SERIOUSLY, CARVER & CO, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO GIVE ME EVERYTHING I EVER WANTED IN TWO MINUTES AT ONCE.





I JUST - DEAN HUGGED HIM ADKASGDKADGFHKJADFGDHJGFDSFDHJSFGDHJSFGHDSJGFHJDSGFJHDSGFJSDHGFHJGDSJHFGJHSDGFHDJSGFHSJGFJHGSDFHJS. IT TOOK PURGATORY FOR DEAN TO HUG HIM. WELL THANK FUCK IT HAPPENED. AND HE TOUCHED HIS FACE AND TOLD CAS THAT HE NEEDED HIM AND ASKFHSDJKFHJKDSHFKJDSHFKJSDHJSDKHFKJDSHFJKSFDHJ.

(SORRY BUT CAPSLOCK ISN'T GETTING TURNED OFF)

ALSO: CAS TELLING HIM THAT HE WAS KEEPING A DISTANCE BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT DEAN TO GET HURT AND DEAN TELLING HIM HE WASN'T GOING TO LEAVE WITHOUT HIM JKDFHSDKFHKSDJFGHDKSJGFSHKG AND BEING ACTUALLY LIKE 'WELL IF THE WAY OUT ISN'T ANGEL PROOF WE'LL FIND A WAY AROUND IT' AND *WANTING* CAS TO GO WITH AND SDIUFHSDUIHGUKSDGIUDSGIDUSGFIUDSGFIYSDG. I'VE BEEN WANTING TO SEE THAT SINCE FOREVER OKAY. AND DEAN TOUCHING CAS'S FACE AND DEAN BEING SO SET ON FINDING HIM AND CAS BEING FINE AND ACTUALLY HE GREW SOME PRETTY DAMN NICE SARCASM AND WEARING THAT TRENCH AND THE BRACELET FROM THE ASYLUM OMG ;__________; AND THE *HUG* I CAN'T. I CAN'T GET OVER IT OKAY. DBFKSDGFHSDGKHFGHKDS. (also lol at Dean being like 'hey Cas SEE I MADE A FRIEND LET ME INTRODUCE' and wanting them to get along probably - oh god that's gold fic material if we go down the jealousy route xDDDDDDDDDD)

AND CAS'S FACE AT THE END AND DEAN'S FACE WHEN HE THINKS ABOUT IT ASDHJKASDHFKJSDFHSDKJHGKDSHFGKJDGFKJSDGFKJDSGKHFJKAFHJ NO SERIOUSLY CAN I CRY FOREVER SAJFDKJGFKSDGFFSHJDG.

Also: I had forgotten to state that I don't buy for one second that Cas is dead. Something probably went wrong when they tried to leave (Dean was holding Cas's hand in the last frame right?) and Dean probably saw exploding light or maybe they were being chased by some leviathan and he assumed that Cas was dead, but *didn't make it* isn't the same thing as *I saw him die in front of me and actually MADE SURE HE WAS DEAD*, so I'm just waiting to see how it turns out that Dean raises Cas from half-perdition *cough*. YES THAT'S TOTALLY HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO NO ONE CONVINCES ME OTHERWISE UNTIL I SEE OTHERWISE. AND DEAN SAYING 'I PRAYED TO YOU EVERY SECOND' AND CAS BEING LIKE 'YES I KNOW' WITH THE PAINED FACE

Phew. That's the most incoherent review I've ever done, methinks.

4. In other news, the new LJ posting interface (the one in beta) is fugly. Can I hope it can be opted out from, when it's time? Because I don't want buttons to help me with my html. :/

5. And with that I'll probably go have another emotional breakdown while I rewatch that certain part of the latest SPN ep discussed above. I still can't believe that happened.
 
 
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cassiopeia7: Dean: hot and gorgeouscassiopeia7 on October 11th, 2012 03:31 pm (UTC)
Oh, bb, I think you're supposed to DILUTE iodine tincture! But congrats on getting sort-of-decent classes. Glad your grandpa is doing better than expected, too.

I've spent ages hoping that Dean would fucking get over his 'all supernatural creatures [that aren't Cas] ARE ALL EVIL AND SHOULD DIE', so if he's friends with the dude and the dude doesn't stab him in the back he can stay

It would be nice to see Dean (somewhat) regain the outlook he was beginning to nurture at the end of "Bloodlust," that not everything supernatural automatically deserves to die, so 100% agreement there. May Benny not turn out to be a betrayer. (Then again, this is SPN, so . . . )

f) People, CAN WE TALK ABOUT SAM USING THOR'S HAMMER? ABOUT SAM BEING WORTHY OF MJOLNIR? ABOUT SAM HITTING ODIN WITH IT? ABOUT ODIN BEING LIKE 'OH HI BABY' AND SNUGGLING WITH IT? SERIOUSLY, WHERE ARE THE CROSSOVERS WHERE THOR SHOWS UP? Please, I need some. That was the funniest shit SPN has pulled in since - SINCE FRONTIERLAND PROBABLY. No but - Sam using Mjolnir. I'm nowhere near over it.

Holy crap, I totally missed that the frail dude was Odin. Watching comprehension FAIL. But Sam whacked him good for the 5/8ths virgin, didn't he?

If anyone can write an SPN/Thor crossover, it's you. Thor WILL be coming back for his poor abused Mjolnir.

And thanks for the cautionary note about H50 -- I hadn't caught it yet and wasn't sure I'd be back for another season.

'let's write shit that couldn't possibly happen according to the laws of physics'

Really? Moreso than usual? Care to detail said shit, or are you gonna make me watch it? ;)
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural deanjanie_tangerine on October 11th, 2012 03:51 pm (UTC)
Yeah, the fact is that in the house there is a bottle looking EXACTLY like the regular tinture which has already diluted tinture. *facepalm* That wasn't my finest moment. :/

I'm all for Dean quitting with the LET'S SEE THE WORLD IN BLACK AND WHITE APPROACH. And hey I was okay with Cas having another bff, I can be okay with Dean having another, proved that Benny isn't there to backstab him obviously. Which def. wasn't the case with Balthazar I would suppose. ;)

I caught on it like, A LOT into it but haha yes he was. And idk, if I wrote a crossover Thor would happen out of nowhere being like 'WAIT YOU CAN LIFT MJOLNIR?!!!' and then he'd learn Sam's life history and get hearts in his eyes and it'd probably end up being Sam/Thor and I'm not even sure I can compute that ship. XDDD

Weeell, in the premiere.. y'know that Kono fell into the ocean with the stones at her feet etcetera? Well, after a good thirty seconds of tv time (which I suppose would translate to minutes) and having sunk for a good number of feet, her mobster boyfriend suddenly shows up diving into the water, brings her out and reanimates her without an issue. Other than it being a sorta plot hole, because I can't remember the boyfriend knowing where she was going, I highly doubt it'd be that easy.... and that was the most glaring one I can think of, but basically out of the three first eps the third was the only one worth my time. ;)
cassiopeia7: Sam: Wanna play?cassiopeia7 on October 11th, 2012 06:06 pm (UTC)
if I wrote a crossover Thor would happen out of nowhere being like 'WAIT YOU CAN LIFT MJOLNIR?!!!' and then he'd learn Sam's life history and get hearts in his eyes and it'd probably end up being Sam/Thor and I'm not even sure I can compute that ship. XDDD

Do it, DO it, DOOOO EEEEETT!!

Kono fell into the ocean with the stones at her feet etcetera?

LOL, it'll take more than that to take out Kono.
ciaimpala: spencerariaciaimpala on October 11th, 2012 03:33 pm (UTC)
*waves hi* :)
the female ghost of tom joad: ILUjanie_tangerine on October 11th, 2012 03:51 pm (UTC)
HII at you! <3
Pan: SPN- meet me herepann_cake on October 11th, 2012 08:18 pm (UTC)
Re: SPN (because I'm still only in season 1 of Boardwalk, so shhh).

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I just want to cry and scream and flail all over the place, LET ME ROLL AROUND IN THESE DESTIEL FEELS. ;____; I just, I just...THEIR STUPID FACES, OH GOD.

"I prayed to you every night." "I know."

*claws at face*

But but but, yes I agree with you, I think something went awry with the exiting Purgatory, and Cas got left behind somehow, and Dean just feels SO GUILTY that he can't even process it so it's easier to just imply that he's dead. BUT DEAN, BB, GO GET HIM. *CLIIIIIIIINGS*
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural dean/cas s7janie_tangerine on October 12th, 2012 09:22 am (UTC)
.. BE READY FOR FEELINGS. Boardwalk can be devastating when it wants to... ;)

I KNOW? I KNOW? DEAN AND CASTIEL YOU LIFE RUINERS DAMNED LIFE RUINERS I CANNOT DEAL WITH THEM.

"I prayed to you every night." "I know."


let's not talk about how this sounds like a certain Star Wars line..... >___>

OMG YES DEAN NEEDS TO GET HIM OUT DHFGDHSFGDHJFGSDHJFGHJSDGFJHDSGFHJGSDFG *CLINGS*
joy: castiel & dean » something to die forjoyyjpg on October 11th, 2012 09:05 pm (UTC)
JANIE THIS POST THOSE GIF YOU'RE KILLING ME. That scene was everything I've dreamed of for these two and I just want to cry and scream because THEY LOVE EACH OTHER SO MUCH UGH. :)

AND YES THE WAY DEAN SAID WE'RE GOING HOME AND I NEED YOU AND I'M NOT LEAVING WITHOUT YOU and I'm just imagining Cas hearing all of Dean's prayers and wanting so much to go to him but forcing himself to stay away because it would only put Dean in danger. And the way Dean believed that something jumped Cas and refused to believe that Cas would just leave him -- CRYING OVER DEAN'S ABANDONMENT ISSUES TBH. AND DEAN'S FACE, HE WAS SO HAPPY TO FINALLY FIND CAS OMG HELP. *cries* :`)

I like Benny so far, though being SPN and all, I'm sure he'll turn out to be somebody Dean shouldn't have trusted. Which makes me kinda sad, really. But I want to see more of their relationship and how Dean came to trust him and like him so much. I imagine some hostility and tension between Benny and Cas.

I have mixed feelings on Crowley so far this season tbh. I mean, he's sassy and wonderful as always, but I like it when he's more ambiguous and not a straight up monster, which is basically how he's been portrayed in these two episodes. I get that this whole thing is gonna end with him getting locked in Hell with everyone else (save Bela Talbot and Adam Milligan please, all I want is for them to get out first, then I literally don't care) and they're probably wrapping up his arc, so...I dunno. *shrug*

In other news, I'M ALL CAUGHT UP ON VAMPIRE PORN BB. I'll be out tonight so I won't get to watch the premiere live, but I will watch it when I get home. SO MANY EMOTIONS. Dean/Cas broke me last night, Elena/Stefan is gonna break me tonight. I am not a person anymore, I am puddle of OTP feelings.
the female ghost of tom joad: the vampire porn stefan/elenajanie_tangerine on October 12th, 2012 01:46 pm (UTC)
BECAUSE YOU THINK THAT THOSE GIFS DIDN'T KILL ME AS WELL? DJSHFKJFSDGHKHDSG FEEEEEELIIIINGSSS. it's like, they decided to make up for all the suffering of last season. And of S6 probably.

AND YES THE WAY DEAN SAID WE'RE GOING HOME AND I NEED YOU AND I'M NOT LEAVING WITHOUT YOU and I'm just imagining Cas hearing all of Dean's prayers and wanting so much to go to him but forcing himself to stay away because it would only put Dean in danger.

I CANNOT WITH THESE TWO IDIOTS OKAY JKDFHJKDFHKJSDFHSKJDFHKJDSHSDJKGHSKJDGHFKJDHGKDJFGHFK. THEIR FACES DURING THAT CONVERSATION I CANNOT.

Meh, I hope that Benny is Dean's Balthazar rather than someone stabbing him in the back D: let's hope. And haha I imagine that the hostility btw him and Cas must have skyrocketed... >__> but yeah I'm so excited to see what went down!

Yeah word. I still <3 Crowley because seriously, the sass is glorious and I'm okay with a villain whose dialogue I actually like, but I preferred him when he was more ambivalent as well. Then again he *is* the only bad guy they've left around, so.. let's see where it goes I guess. And yeah, SOMEONE BRING THOSE TWO OUT THANKS.

... OOOH YOU ARE? LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THE PREMIERE THEN BECAUSE I'M DROWNING IN AN OCEAN OF STEFAN/ELENA FEELINGS ATM. (And of 'my heart is broken over the Damon/Alaric' feelings. Okay, could also be summed in MY HEART IS BROKEN FOR DAMON. But whatever. IT WAS GLORIOUS.)
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the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural dean/cas don't ever changejanie_tangerine on October 12th, 2012 08:28 am (UTC)
I'm just some sixty pages in and for now he's still building the premises, but it's good so far! And the writing is always gorgeous anyway. ;)

SO MUCH CAPSLOCK, BUT IT'S DESERVED CAPSLOCK!!!! CASTIEEEELLLL <333333333333333 EVERYTHING ELSE. AND SAM WITH MJOLNIR. (I'll never shut up about that.)
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the female ghost of tom joad: boardwalk empirejanie_tangerine on October 12th, 2012 09:45 pm (UTC)
GOOD TO KNOW THAT I DON'T HAVE TO DISOWN YOU ;)

Gillian is creeeepyyyy DDDD: and haha Nucky is.. interesting. I suppose. I liked him better when he didn't shoot people. And no, Al Capone is better this season too! Though Richard >>> the world.
The Cleaverage: Winchesters of the Deadkel_reiley on October 12th, 2012 07:55 am (UTC)
SPN! I missed your reviews, man.

a) YES. YES WE SHOULD. Oh, ok.

d) Right? FINALLY. The vending machine part, faced all those options? That was perfect.

e) I want to think Sam just went into shock for a bit, driving around aimlessly not knowing what to do (and then he hit a dog). Also, yes. Jared, it is time for a haircut, man. (I just saw an ep from s6 this morning on TV and was shocked thinking "Wow his hair looked so much better then..." b/c I recall back then I was like "omg his hair is RIDIC!")

Keven and his mom are the best ♥ Sam and Dean need a mom. They really do. Fix her, get her back in there, so she can kick their asses a bit.

Benny (that's his name? I totally missed that) I do actually like. Although, I fear in the future Dean will have to kill him and it will only reinforce his "ALL NON-HUMANS SHOULD DIE" motto. (And though I'm usually and OTP kinda gal, I'm kinda shipping Dean with everyone all of a sudden. Dean/Benny in purgatory, and Dean/Kevin's mom - oh yeah! Just while he's all messed up and grieving for Cas.)

f) DID HE KEEP THE HAMMER? THAT SHIT COULD COME IN HANDY LATER!

g) Dude, his face. DEAN'S FACE! He is just SO HAPPY to see Cas. And we finally get a hug. OMG. I tried my best not to squeal - there were other ppl in the room.

BUT THEN THE END! OH GOD THE END! I mean, ok, I kinda saw something like that coming, so I was expecting it, but Cas's face, his struggling, his crying out for Dean! MY HEART.

Oh, Cas is totally not dead. He was def grasping Dean's hand and they got pulled apart. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. Dean never said dead. Sam did and Dean did not confirm it, not really. I think for a while he might believe Cas is dead, but something's gonna happen to make him question it. (I really hope Dean pulls him out.)

I think I might have to go rewatch that, too.
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural dean/cas <3janie_tangerine on October 12th, 2012 09:51 pm (UTC)
a.) if I had started with that I wouldn't have covered anything else, lol.

d) I'M SO GLAD THEY'RE DOING IT RIGHT. SO. GLAD.

e) well I suppose that if he thought that Dean had died and gone to Heaven (which I read somewhere as a possible theory) it wouldn't have made sense to try and bring him back at all. Still, Dean's face DDDDD:

HAHAHAHA TOTALLY KEVIN'S MOM NEEDS TO ADOPT THEM. And JARED NEEDS TO CUT THAT HAIR IT'S DISTRACTING AND IT LOOKS POSSESSED, OKAY.

f) I HOPE THAT HE DID OR I'LL DISOWN HIM. YOU DON'T THROW AWAY *MJOLNIR*. YOU. DON'T.

g) I CAN'T EVEN COMPREHEND DEAN'S FACE I MEAN SERIOUSLY AND HE HUGGED HIM THAT CLOSE AND JDHFKJSDHFKJSDFHJDKSHFJSDHFKSDJFHKSDJFHKJSDF I had to stop for like five minutes because I couldn't take it.

MY HEART TOO.

I think that Dean was getting sucked in whatever vortex was supposed to bring them back and he didn't manage to keep the hold and now he feels guilty because he didn't keep his promise or something like that. And when he finds out that Cas isn't dead.. WELL. I SHALL HOPE HE'S GOING TO KEEP IT.
The Cleaverage: dean/caskel_reiley on October 12th, 2012 11:08 pm (UTC)
RE: that last bit - YES. Yes to all of it.
bold_seer: wickedgroundbold_seer on October 12th, 2012 05:52 pm (UTC)
So, ah, how many times have they killed, sort-of killed or fake-killed Castiel by now?
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural castiel 8.0janie_tangerine on October 12th, 2012 09:46 pm (UTC)
Uuuhm. *counts* three, if we don't count the pre-Leviathan thing which'd make it four. Still less than Dean. ;)
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the female ghost of tom joad: bruce no surrender #1janie_tangerine on October 13th, 2012 08:51 pm (UTC)
YESS THEY ARE! I debated on whether I wanted to go that far, but then I gave in. It was just one date and I have no idea if/when they're coming back, so... I'M GOING. Even if I envy you because I'm going alone D: but anyway I'M SO EXCITED <3

thanks so much! ♥
A.: Dean/Casvella_amor_dm on October 14th, 2012 11:13 pm (UTC)
1b. !!!!! i hope you've healed up now! ...and i thought you were supposed to use iodine to like disinfect wounds and stuff? o.O

DEAN&CAS DEAN&CAS DEAN&CAS DEAN&CAS DEAN&CAS DEAN&CAS DEAN&CAS DEAN&CAS DEAN&CAS DEAN&CAS DEAN&CAS DEAN&CAS - i could seriously go on in this vain for a very long time. MY LITTLE SHIP IS SAILING ITSELF WITH FLAIR AND EXTRAVAGANCE. RIDIC PLEASED RIGHT NOW.