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14 May 2009 @ 02:28 pm
Lost 5x16/17 The Incident  
Erm, uhm, I don't have an idea about how I feel about it.

Team I AM COMPLETELY CONFUSED.

1. Er, okay, that ending?

Most unfair thing in the history of ever. And that's all I have to say about it.

2. I'm confused over the supposed major character death. Because it CAN'T be Juliet since if she is dead then they're all dead and surely next season can't be Sun, Richard, Frank, Ben and false!Locke. So for all I'm concerned Juliet is just the next Jin scare. Since he couldn't be the one dying AGAIN...

3. Is that bad that all the quadrangle action I cared most for was Jack and Sawyer having their release and basically touching each other more than during the last three seasons?

Also, I liked the talk at the tree. I just wish it ended up like in Exodus, but still, the stamina release was necessary.

4. Also, yay everyone for confusing poor Sawyer and confusing me, too, because Jack wants to blow it because of Kate, Juliet because Sawyer seemingly loves Kate, Kate because of Claire or whatever and Sawyer because he's in the minority and sincere, you know what?

5. The best thing was all the Jack/Sayid stuff. Actually the Sayid stuff. (btw, I refuse to think he's dead, too. But anyway, he was alive when the bomb exploded I guess, so there goes my reasoning. If he's gone they're all gone and that's not the case. Or so I hope.)

6. Also, like, SAYIIIDDDD. ;______; God, I love him. That scene with Nadia... *sigh*

But apart from that, did they mean she was hit on purpose? Because the way they told it, I had figured she got shot. Maybe I just imagined it all.

7. So it's obvious that Richard came with the Black Rock, right? Because that was it at the beginning, right? And also, Nestor, your Latin sucks. I didn't even get it was Latin.

8. I thought the kids were all really well cast. At least. Even if Sawyer is left-handed.

9. I clearly had to go and get a half-crush on Jacob and of course what? HE DIES. Also, that was frighteningly easy, huh?

10. So wait. If Locke is dead, new!Locke is that guy who was with Jacob in the beginning?

11. That said, new!Locke sucks. Hell, I even felt SORRY for Ben. For BEN. ME, feeling sorry for Ben, who feels like the neglected first son who doesn't get attention when the younger sibling arrives, which was pretty much lol-worthy but still. Poor Ben, completely mindfucked.

12. I mean, fuck, I felt sorry for Ben.

13. Sun finding the ring = BEST SCENE OF THE FINALE hands down. They remembered it!

14. Other best part: Rose and Bernard living like Robinson Crusoe. Really? Those two are my OTP. Everything said. That was the sanest bit in that whole finale. And THERE WAS VINCENT!

(yes, I'm happy with a few things.)

15. I really liked Chang. Good guy. Radzinsky needed to die THEN. Thanks.

16. That said, so that's how Chang lost his arm. Which.. errrrm... uuuhm... means that they actually survived that thing....? How do you?

17. (Also, how much of the whole bomb thing was taken from a certain King book I won't say because it'd be spoiling its ending?)

18. Also, if the real Locke is dead for good, then sorry John but I'm definitely done with you. I'll be able to remember him with some good thoughts if in the end he was the guy dying in Jeremy Bentham, but whoever the fuck this new guy is, I'm done. Done. Done.

19. Also, Jack. Oh, you're so Jack. And even with all the Kate stuff in there which I really can't give a damn about, I still ♥ you. Even if you could have thrown that bomb with some moar skill. But anyway, I missed Nirvana this round. Boo. After two finales I was digging it.

20. The Sun/Jin wedding was lovely, but.. NO REUNION? *headdeeeessskk*

21. No Des/Pen? WHAT? WHAT? WHAT?!!

22. FRANK AND MILES AREN'T DEAD. That's mostly what I'm most happy about, Frank especially. Also, wtf was with Ilana and Clint Eastwood's son? ://

23. Also, so suddenly Ilana is a good guy? Whateverthehell..? Ah well, Richard's shirt was a very pretty sight.

24. In all, I was very sad to lose Jacob, completely not-caring about the quadrangle stuff, squeeing at Rose/Bernard and Sun/Jin, not at all impressed with the ending, I don't get if I'm supposed to think Juliet is dead and cry over it or no (I think no), I loved Charlie's ring, Richard is very pretty, me and Locke are definitely professionally done, me and Jack aren't, me and Sayid sure FUCKING AREN'T, I didn't even hope for His Prettiness having a cameo and since next year he's on the CW I just hope he gets some holes in the schedule for having one, whoever casts kids is good, Frank is made of awesome material, I ♥ Miles and now I just need to find out how the heck I'm going to slash people during the hiatus.

I think I liked last year's better. But however. It was on par with the season, which was IMHO enjoyable with some great peeks, some great lows and the rest I just went along with it. Now Juliet better be alive next season as everyone who was in 1977.

Also, kudos to Sayid for being one of the three people who rocked the Dharma jumpsuit. Or maybe the two people. And Rose and Bernard better be around next season. That's all I'm saying.

And I'm sure I forgot stuff but I really am not in the right frame of mind.
 
 
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valhalla37valhalla37 on May 14th, 2009 02:08 pm (UTC)
SERIOUSLY.

I'm still mind-boggled. I think I'm going to watch it again this weekend before I make up my mind on what I thought/even try to begin posting about it. Also, I did my first ongoing post at ack_attack, and damn! That's a lot of work. I'm sure I missed five million things because I was too busy keeping up with all the comments/trying to be clever and witty. (And attempting to explain the entirety of Season 5 to my fiancé, who crapped out on LOST way back in January.)

One thing, though -- "unfair" is an excellent, excellent word for the finale. Right after it went to white with "LOST", I turned to Fiiancé and screeched, "that's IT?!" (Though I have to admit, the two hours leading up to that moment were highly, highly entertaining.)
the female ghost of tom joad: lost -> generaljanie_tangerine on May 14th, 2009 02:36 pm (UTC)
LOL, I did the same thing but along with the friend I was watching it online with and we were, like, WTF?

Anyway yeah, that ending was so, so, so unfair. Blaaah. I want the raft back. :(( But yeah, the rest was entartaining indeed!
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the female ghost of tom joad: loljanie_tangerine on May 14th, 2009 02:40 pm (UTC)
I hope it's the first...? Because really, yeah, pointless otherwise. But well, they do the whole it-looks-like-one-person-is-dead thing since the S1 finale when they shot Sawyer, then it was Desmond and then it was Jin so if they do it again I'd just shrug. I mean, it's stupid, but it's nothing new.

You do have a point. But Idk really, again? I mean, between John and Jin how many times did they die? *sigh*
alemyrddin: HurleyDudeVanalemyrddin on May 14th, 2009 03:04 pm (UTC)
2. I think Juliet could be dead not because of the bomb but because of the fall. She was almost dying anyway. And Sayid is still in danger. Of course, I hope both of them are okay!

3. Not bad at all! ;) And I agree about the talk, I'm just sorry that Sawyer is always so open and sincere to Jack and Jack can't find in himself to do the same.
Oh, and I loved Sawyer/Juliet too.

5. Jack and Sayid had great scenes together, I agree.

6. *sniffs* I don't remember what they said about Nadia's death, previously, but I'm more and more convinced that Jacob did not make her die (as I thought at first), but on the contrary he saved Sayid. I

7. I think it was the black rock at the beginning, indeed. And since before it seemed there was no Richard on the island... you could be right.

8. I liked Kate, but not Sawyer, not at all. It's not the kid's fault that nobody remembered that Sawyer is left-handed, but I didn't like him anyway.

9. I wonder... if Jacob had that great powers, can he really be dead?

10. yep! new!Locke was never real, after all.

11. I found Ben's speech heartbreaking, but you know I have a soft spot for him. Still, I'm glad this time you felt a connection with him, too. ;)

13. yes, I was so glad too!

14. *nods*

16. I think that what happened is the same thing that happened already - they didn't change a thing. Therefore, Chang survived. And hopefully they were fastforwarded to 2007.

19. I loved Jack, but the fact that he is still hung up on Kate makes no sense. It goes against this whole season, and the better reasons he had to detonate the bomb. *sighs*

Now Juliet better be alive next season as everyone who was in 1977.
*crosses fingers*
the female ghost of tom joad: lost hurleyjanie_tangerine on May 15th, 2009 07:54 am (UTC)
2. Yeah, that's also a point you have. It depends on how they all were flashed back (because I'm sure they were flashed back/forward), but still. If she's dead because of the bomb then everyone else there is dead and I don't think it's the case.

3. Yeah, with you. *sigh* Ah, Jack, when it is that you will finally embrace the UST? *rolls eyes*

5. They were awesome. I kind of wish I shipped them instead of writing them just because, but they really have great scenes.

6. I was sure they said she was killed by someone who worked for Widmore, so I had figured a shooting or something. Then it might turn out she was hit on purpose, but... ah well, I'm not breaking my head over it. And yeah, Jacob completely saved Sayid by holding him back.

7. I stand by it. Also because pirate!Richard? Mm.

8. No, you're right. That was the only mis-cast one, also because he didn't really look like the kid they already used in S1.

9. I don't think so. Or at least, it was too easy. He didn't even put up a fight.

10. Blah. Now I'll end up missing the real Locke, with whom I always had a love-hate relationship, but false!Locke? That completely lacks the love part. I mean, if we're stuck with him for all next season...

11. Oh, at the moment I felt so sorry for him. Which knowing me is kind of astonishing, but feeling sorry for Ben for the whole episode was sort of a strange experience, lol.

13, At least! Now we can hope Claire gets it..?

16. Yeah, that's what I thought, too. Which means that the bomb isn't really that powerful or that the force underground counter-balanced it because really, a real atomic explosion would have wiped them all away.

19. I'll just ignore the Kate factor. *coughcoughcough* ;)
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the female ghost of tom joad: lost -> generaljanie_tangerine on May 15th, 2009 07:47 am (UTC)
why, hello!
Jacob was very, very pretty. And Richard so is, too. They'd make such a pretty, pretty pairing. -nod-

Yeah, that's what I thought too. It's either that he'll be back in some other form or he knew it or he wanted it to happen or whatever because really, omni-potent being and it's that easy to kill him? :/

I'm with you on Juliet. If she's dead everyone else is dead and as someone said, basically Desmond did the same thing in S2 and Desmond isn't dead. So... *hopes*
lover all alone: Lost: Jawyerinvisiblelove on May 15th, 2009 04:59 am (UTC)
Ok, most importantly...

3. Is that bad that all the quadrangle action I cared most for was Jack and Sawyer having their release and basically touching each other more than during the last three seasons?

LOL NO. There is never anything wrong with basking in the Jawyer love ;)

I basically had Sawyer's reaction when Vincent came bounding to him across the beach LOL

It makes me sad that people on my flist don't seem to be as into Lost anymore. I guess I just enjoy the mindfuckery in a weird way? LOL I don't know.

Gaaaaaaaaah I just watched three finales in a row (Lost, Grey's, and SPN) and now I'm emotionally drained and mourning my TV lossssss v_v
the female ghost of tom joad: lost jack/sawyerjanie_tangerine on May 15th, 2009 07:44 am (UTC)
Oh God, I'm about to watch SPN and I'm sure I'll feel completely drained, too.

And HA, good! I mean, I also want to see the Jack/Sawyer, but really, give me a break. I can't be bothered by anything else quadrangle-related.

Aw, yeah, I'm with you. For what it's worth, I'm still a lot into it, but they also did the worst thing they could do in S1 for all I'm concerned, so I just go with it. I don't exactly enjoy the mindfuckery when it goes to extreme levels but I'm still hooked. *cough*

VINCENT!!! I so love Vincent. I had missed him!!
missy_useless: juliemissy_useless on May 15th, 2009 02:50 pm (UTC)
I think that Juliet is dead (or will be dead) and that Sayid is the death scare. But I keep repeating the same things over and over again. I should stop (but it's the only thing I can really think about, at the moment - that they killed my favourite character (and my OTP - Jack wasn't even conscious when she fell ... wtf?)).

That said, you know that I love Jack.

You made me smile with point 11 and 12. Thanks for that. ;)
the female ghost of tom joad: lost julietjanie_tangerine on May 15th, 2009 03:11 pm (UTC)
Argh, that's... *sigh* Ah, I feel your pain. And sincerely, I'd have never thought I had it that good. I mean, they offed my favorite too but it was the only death they managed to do right and while Jack was part of my OTP there too at least he was there and conscious. *sigh* Argh, it's just horrible, but it also could be that the major death is Locke. After all we found out now that he really is gone, right? *hopes* Sincerely if Sayid dies I'll throw a fit, but if Juliet is really dead, too... *sigh* I just hope she isn't.

And I can't not love Jack, lol.

Ha, no problem. Always my pleasure. Who knows, next year I'll end up being a Ben fangirl at the rate we're going.
elliotsmelliotelliotsmelliot on May 16th, 2009 03:39 pm (UTC)
Your reactions were pretty much the same as mine, especially this one..

Er, okay, that ending?

Most unfair thing in the history of ever. And that's all I have to say about it


Finales should be exciting. This ambiguity is just frustrating. Your right about it being on par with the season. Overall I would say I enjoyed it but there was so many disappointing moments too.

I've bookmarked your post-finale fics.
the female ghost of tom joad: tangerinesjanie_tangerine on May 17th, 2009 09:32 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it wasn't exciting. Or at least not exactly exciting. Like this we just have stuff to break our heads on for the next nine months, but I'd have rather had something else. It was more or less like the season I guess, I can't say I hated it because I didn't, but it sure wasn't on par with the other four finales.

And thanks! ♥
Creature Of Hobbit: james sawyer fordtellshannon815 on May 25th, 2009 10:40 pm (UTC)
Hehe, that whole time Jack and Sawyer were fighting, I kept thinking of the make-up sex they were gonna have later!