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02 August 2009 @ 11:44 pm
some thoughts on firefly + meme + stuff  
1. Hiii! I'm back, luckily the train wasn't too late, I seriously need to decide if I'm going on vacation next week or not (yeah, yeah, this is called thinking things early *snorts*), I'm all caught up and I has some blathering about my Firefly watching, from ep 1 to 5. Mostly general stuff I guess, but hey. I have a new show! And it's only 14 eps so I will catch up with it in a week maximum!

a. Okay, so this has to be the only show I've ever seen where I didn't have a favorite character clear from the first two episodes. Though in this case it's a good thing because I'm mostly loving everyone. Actually, I love the entire premise, it's so intriguing! Why the hell didn't I ever watch it before? Right, because here it never aired anywhere if not maybe on cable, but whatever. Until now I'm really, really loving everything. I love the writing, I love the setting, I like that it's a total genres-pastiche and that it works and IT HAS WELL WRITTEN WOMEN!

b. The only character I still haven't warmed up to is probably Jayne. Half of the time I enjoy the character and the other half I want to smack him, especially when he's being mean to poor Simon. But, I need to admit that his hat is fantastic (haldoor, I absolutely agree about that, lol).

c. Actually, I probably want to smack him when he's mean to Simon because Simon is exactly the character I usually fall for (you know, young nice guy, kind of pretty, with a sibling, his load of issues, self-sacrificing) and I actually do love him, but I thiiiink I'm getting my crush on Mal. Who is usually the kind of character (you know, the lead one, with the sorta dark past, wears incredibly cool clothes and has the though attitude and has cool lines regarding priests being welcome on his ships and God being not) which comes second in my chart, but I think this round things have switched. Or at least, I'm leaning there.

d. I freaking love Zoe. What a great character, she's just so awesome. Actually I was so glad to see that for once the first mate was a woman!! And an intelligent one, for that matter. And one who is in a sane, healthy relationship and doesn't get into love triangles of sorts.

d2. Hi, my canon-ships loving self. I ship Zoe/Wash like woah, and I mean, I'm shipping a canon het couple. For the what, third time in my whole life? *is shocked* And btw, Wash is awesome. Even if I guess that he's the character out of the bunch that got picked to wear the awful shirts (which seemingly happens in every show I watch, but awesome nonetheless).

e. Kaylee is just so adorable. I want her for my bff or something, also because while a lot of people know I like pink, a few know that I absolutely love frilly pink dresses like the one she wanted in 1x04. That scene at the ball was so awesome. And I loved when the guy basically sent to fuck off that idiot who took pity on the dress and then she ended up talking with the guy and his friends about engines, lol. (Also, Mal going with her and dressed that way and actually fencing? *snickers*)

f. I really like Inara too. I'm not too fond of the Inara/Mal UST though, but I like their relationship and I like her in general.

g. I also like River a lot, even if girls speaking I definitely prefer Zoe. But I love her relationship with Simon, their story is intriguing and hers especially is. Also, everyone's acting is great, seriously. Why the hell on TV here the only Joss Whedon shows that are perpetually aired until one gets sick are Buffy and Angel? I'd have really loved to catch this one on tv even if I guess they wouldn't bother to air fourteen episodes if not on cable. Blah. Pity. Also, Shepherd Book = awesome.

h. Okay, I think I'm done with the rambling. I'm not trying to decide my favorite episode until now, I'll just watch it all first. And I'll probably go watching another couple before going to bed, even if I should be writing. But I'm not in the right frame of mind.

2. Very cool meme stolen from falafel_musings!

1. Write a list of 15 of your fandoms; including films, TV series, books and stage shows.
2. Ask people on your flist to pick a fandom and guess who your favourite character is from it.
3. If they guess right, you must explain why this character is or became your favourite.
4. If you share this fandom with the poster guess who their favourite is too.

I'm not including Heroes because a) it's seriously too obvious and b) I still am not caught up and I think I completely lost interest *sigh*. And I'm not including operas even if considering my standards of fangirling in regards of opera I probably should *cough*.

1. The Dark Tower series
2. Lost
3. Supernatural (hint: this has at least three correct answers since I switched three favorite characters for, er, canon reasons, and a fourth for the one who has always been the second and for S3 and half S4 did stay first)
4. Friday Night Lights
5. Six Feet Under
6. The Wire
7. Lord of the Rings
8. Maurice
9. The Three Musketeers (YEAH, it's a fandom. I wrote for it, dammit. ;) )
10. Good Omens
11. Pushing Daisies
12. The Rocky Horror Picture Show
13. Watchmen
14. Star Wars (first trilogy)
15. Rent (okay, I only became obsessed with it recently and I'm not at fandom levels, but I had a blank spot and if I put Blade Runner it'd have been the feast of obvious. ;) )

3. Completely not-fandom related, but how do you know you're in Italy? When you take a train which has high velocity and is supposedly the best thing Italian railways can offer you right now (and believe me, they don't have much) and the air conditioning is broken on the day when there's 38 degrees outside. And just in the part where we got seats but whatever, I got a free seat in first class where they guy next to me was totally reading what I was writing/editing on the laptop (aka Dean/Castiel fic *cough*) so at least there was that.

4. #3 related, it's freaking hot. Right, it's Italy and it's August but still. *fans*

5. I don't want to count how much I've listened to the Rent soundtrack in the past week. Hell, I'm fighting the urge to quote it in fic, which is so not what I need.

6. And since I don't have anything more interesting to say for today and tomorrow I'll need to be up sometime soon because marlonob is spending the afternoon here and I'll pick her up at lunch hour and I want to do something useful in the morning I will be in my bunk watching some more Firefly. And tomorrow morning I actually hope to do some luau catching up. *waves*
feeling: blahblah
on rotation: san antonio girl - steve earle
bold_seer: hello casbold_seer on August 2nd, 2009 10:01 pm (UTC)
Lost is probably too easy?

So, Spn: I was going to say Dean, Sam and Castiel, but... Dean, John, Cas + Sam?
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural deanjanie_tangerine on August 3rd, 2009 07:52 am (UTC)
Heee, three out of four!

Dean is the one who stayed my steady second favorite for S1, 2 and half of 4 and was my favorite for 3 and the first half of 4. Cas is my current favorite. John was my fav. in S1. And for how much I do love Sam, the other one is Ash. I had a crush on the guy of serious and scary proportions *cough* so it was John, Ash, Cas + Dean. John mostly because I really started getting into SPN around the time they found him (first I liked it but I wasn't really invested), Ash was kind of love at first sight and Cas stole my heart after 4x16. But Dean is my steady SPN crush, lol.
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falafel_musings: Hobbits 1falafel_musings on August 2nd, 2009 10:15 pm (UTC)
1, Eddie
6, Omar (Or McNulty? I'll stick with Omar)
7, Faramir
12, Columbia (don't know why I'm guessing that! Just a hunch. If not her then either Frank or Eddie - cos you always like Eddies!)
falafel_musings: dwarffalafel_musings on August 2nd, 2009 10:24 pm (UTC)
Oh, also nice to see you have discovered Firefly. It's about the only Wheedon show I can sit through; I totally agree that I'd rather have seen more Firefly than Buffy/Angel. I really liked the girl characters too. Zoe I just loved from the start (Zoe/Wash is a fun healthy relationship which is very refreshing). River gets better and better towards the end and is especially awesome in the last ep. And Book! I loved Book too. Jayne is an arsehole, but in an entertaining way I felt.

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pnr on August 2nd, 2009 10:24 pm (UTC)
Fireflyyyyyy ♥

Jayne is well... he's so charming. But yeah he's an ass a lot of the times. I think when you've finished you will be so loving him anyway.

and about favourite ep... haha, there was one ep (I'm not telling you which cause it might make you all "oooh this is it!" and be dissapointed you know?) that had me thinking "holy fucking shit, this is awesome! This is my favourite episode, hands down, and they won't be able to top it". I was wrong.

bwahahaha, Kaylee's dress in Shindig is HORRIBLE! XD
it's like, too much sweetness XD

ok, lets play the guessing game. I so suck at this but whatever, I might be lucky? XD

Lost - uhm, Boone? (hey did you watch that Joss interview? XD)
SPN - well my first instinct would be Cas of course. if bold_seer ddidn't get em all I want to add Bobby as a guess *nods* (becaus ehe's awesome)
LotR - bwahaha no fucking idea... wait, did we discuss LotR when we were suppose to sleep? Hmm, damn. Or maybe before. I think we did discuss it once. I'm going to guess for someone really random and say Eowyn (caus eI remember adoring her when reading the books)
Good Omens - urgh... Crowley?
Pushing Daisies - everyone is so awesome! Ned? Nah that is kinda like boring with the main character and everything. Emerson? XD
Rocky Horror - Frank? Becaus eI mean, who can say no to fishnets?
Star Wars - noooooo idea, Yoda? xD
Rent - mr Roger Bon Jovi? *laugh*

bwahhaa, quote Rent in fic! I dare ya!
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a geek in such the wrong way: firefly-that went wellhaldoor on August 2nd, 2009 10:32 pm (UTC)
I won't do the guessing game because I'm not so into fandoms in such a big way and couldn't guess if I tried, but WOO: Firefly!!! Totally agreeing with you there, and so glad you like the hat! HAHA! I have such love for most of the characters on that show; it's a gorgeous ensemble, and they all play together wonderfully. I think I have to agree on the het ship thing too, because Zoe/Wash are so wonderful together, and you know I don't do het as a rule. And yes, great women, wonderful men! (and if I have a ship it's Mal/Simon). I wonder if you've seen the one where Simon sews Mal up (I have no memory of what ep is what, so don't ask me to tell you where it features; I can only do 'moments'), because that totally did me in.

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the female ghost of tom joad: fireflyjanie_tangerine on August 3rd, 2009 08:08 am (UTC)
Oooh, I think I've seen that ep! Is the one where Simon is sewing him and he's all stoic and then whimpers when Simon is pulling the stitch? ♥ Those two are a nice ship, I like them together. That hat is AWESOME! It makes me laugh everytime I see it, lol. The cast is so great together, you're totally right about that. And ha, I rarely ship het but Zoe/Wash are so good together! I don't usually do het either except for that three couples in Lost one of which is virtually dead, so it's kind of refreshing to do it for an healthy relationship.
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the female ghost of tom joad: fireflyjanie_tangerine on August 3rd, 2009 08:11 am (UTC)
Uh, nope, you didn't spoil me. I only know one thing about the movie and I AM AN IDIOT because for once when I wasn't spoiled at all I got spoiled for a pretty big thing, but it wasn't you spoiling me and it was my fault because the cut read Firefly spoilers and I opened it anyway. I'VE SEEN JAYNESTOWN YESTERDAY!! And actually I was like 'damn, I wish I could edit that LJ post because I have a newfound appreciation for Jayne', lol. It was so good!

I'll watch Serenity too when I'm done which I guess will be today or tomorrow, even if I know I'm going to suffer. Ah, idiot self, why do spoil so? And don't worry it did make sense!

en Jayne says "I'll be in my bunk," it was like a fucking A-HA lightbulb going off in my head, lol. And "big damn heroes," and of course "also, I can kill you with my brain."

YES! AND THE SPECIAL HELL for fangirls!!! I hadn't known it was all from FF, it's so AWESOME!!
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the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural castieljanie_tangerine on August 3rd, 2009 08:12 am (UTC)
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the female ghost of tom joad: fireflyjanie_tangerine on August 3rd, 2009 08:13 am (UTC)
Yep, Han Solo! ;) Totally right about that, I'm so not-original.

LOL, that's what entertains me about Jayne. Then he's mean to the guy I feel should be my favorite but isn't and I get annoyed at him, but his snark is so good!
Aurilly: writer's blockaurilly on August 3rd, 2009 12:29 am (UTC)
Hee! I love writing/editing fic in public! Most of the time, people have no idea, but every so often, the person totally knows that that combination of names only occurs in a television show, and you can see the confusion on their faces. :)

I'm new to your flist, so pardon my ignorance... why are you in Italy? I'm so ridiculously jealous! :)
the female ghost of tom joad: writingjanie_tangerine on August 3rd, 2009 08:15 am (UTC)
LOL, that one was awesome because I was editing stuff at the beginning and then jumping at the end because I still needed to finish it, but since there was porn before the part I had to continue I ended up editing that too and I just hope he didn't understand English, lol.

Ha, well, I'm Italian. ;) ;) Rome actually, but this weekend I was going to my grandparents' who live in some city one hour from Naples so I was on trains. :)
Lou: Watchmengottalovev on August 3rd, 2009 01:44 am (UTC)
I don't know how it happened, but somehow I totally felled for Jayne, even if I usually wanted to smack him behind the head. and I just could not STAND Simon, still can't I think, and I rarely have such a viceral reaction to a character, I've been wondering about that, frankly, because he never DID anything that would have really pissed me off. oh well, so there is more of him for you ;) but like you, I do love the whole damn crew and Zoe is a definite girl!crush.

I find myself wondering who's your favorite on Watchmen... they are all so fucked up in a way. Is your favorite the Comedian?
the female ghost of tom joad: watchmenjanie_tangerine on August 3rd, 2009 08:18 am (UTC)
Heeee, more Jayne for you and more Simon for me! Well, Simon is the kind of character I usually like, but I think that after my marathon yesterday I decided for Mal. ♥ Which is so not my usual but for once I can make an exception, lol. Zoe is so great!

And ha, well, I went in for the Comedian but in the end my favorite was Rorschach. Which is so NOT my usual kind of character either (my patterns considered my favorite should have been Daniel actually), but I went in being like, YAY COMEDIAN! and I went out 'OMG ROOORRRSCHAAACH ;____________;' and well, I just picked the more fucked up of the bunch I guess. Or close to it.
elliotsmelliot: Booneelliotsmelliot on August 3rd, 2009 02:02 am (UTC)
As for Lost, I think we all know who #1 is, but who would come #2? Jack? Sayid?

4. Jason.
5. David
6. Omar
7. Wild guess - Boromir?
11. Ned
14. Han
15. I didn't know you were into Rent. That is one of my favourite shows. Hmmmm...I will go with Roger because you like musicians or maybe Angel?

I thought Firefly was good, but there was not enough of it for me to really get obsessed with. Kaylee was my favourite. I also liked River, Mal and Wash. I am not a fan of the actress who played Zoe, so even though I recognize her as being really cool, her awful role on Angel ruined her for me. I agree with you about Jayne, though I very much like the variation on the character played by Adam Baldwin on Chuck.

the female ghost of tom joad: lost boone ---> XQ________janie_tangerine on August 3rd, 2009 08:23 am (UTC)
#2 for Lost always was Sayid but Jack and Desmond are close behind him. Desmond mostly because this season he was almost nonexistent. *headdesk*

About the rest... Jason is totally correct, David is INDEED correct even if I was in for Nate first (then totally switched), Omar is correct, Boromir is close but nope, it's Faramir because apparently my patterns say I like people with sibling issues, PD is right with Ned being on par with Emerson (I change idea every five minutes), Han is totally correct and YES, you got my two favorites! My actual favorite is Roger though, I have a thing for musicians with issues and baggage, but Angel is easily my second. I got into it kind of in the last two weeks because my friend who was over here loves it and she was like, 'you have to hear it' and I did and it's all I've been listening for the last ten days. I seriously love it.

Firefly is good! I doubt I'll get obsessed also because it's so short, but I like it a lot. I don't know why I never really warmed up to either Buffy or Angel but I kind of am for this one. Kaylee is great! I think that after another four eps yesterday I decided my favorite is Mal but I pretty much liked everyone. And uh, he's on Chuck? Interesting! I will check that out too, sometime..
Zelda: Zoe/Wash Lovezelda_zee on August 3rd, 2009 02:48 am (UTC)
Have you seen Jaynestown? You might warm up to Jayne then. Heart of Gold, too. That's a good Jayne ep. He's a bastard though, for sure. The only question is whether you find him to be a lovable bastard or not.

I love Mal madly. He's SUCH a fantastic character and Nathan Fillion plays him brilliantly.

Zoe is my favorite female TV character ever and Zoe/Wash is my favorite canon ship. I have a big crush on Zoe. I think she is about the epitome of sexy, when it comes to women.

I've read some Firefly slash, but basically I ship canon for that show, so I never got too heavily into it.

My favorite Firefly fic is actually a Firefly/SPN x-over 'verse by sevenfists. It's Dean/Mal and she has a perfect grasp of the Firefly 'verse. You can find it here.
the female ghost of tom joad: fireflyjanie_tangerine on August 3rd, 2009 10:02 am (UTC)
I hadn't seen Jaynestown when I wrote this post but I've seen it now and I think I did warm up to him. He kind of won me over with the whole 'I'll be in my bunk' thing but occasionally he's still irking me. But I think I'm leaning towards the kind of bastard I do enjoy.

And after some five more eps I think I swayed towards Mal too. He's seriously fantastic, I ♥ him to such pieces!

I can totally see why Zoe would be your favorite female ever. She's totally the epitome of cool and I do indeed agree about her being really sexy. And wow, strong female character, I'm not used to that!

Oh, AWESOME!! Mal/Dean? *drools at the thought* But I've seen that it's set post movie so I'll bookmark it and save it for after I watch that. Usually I'd have not cared but since it's the first time in ages I watch a show unspoiled for once I'll wait. *bookmarks* Thanks for the rec!
Lady Macbeth: Castiel Holy Taxladymacbeth77 on August 3rd, 2009 06:23 am (UTC)
Mah, io ci provo senza leggere le risposte prima da brava bambina ;)

2 - Boone
3- Su due vado sul sicuro: Dean e Castiel. L'altro... non so, io opto sempre per Sam per fangirlismo :P
7 - Faramir? Amore lui!
8 - Uhm... Clive?
9 - Mi ricordo che ne avevamo discusso e manifestavamo entrambi il nostro amore per Richelieu. Però propendo più per Athos :)
13 - Brad Majors?
14- Han Solo? A meno che tu, per prima trilogia, non intenda quella dopo, quella che però è prima. Allora... Obi Wan-Kenobi?

C'ho provato ;) Però bellino, faccio anch'io!
the female ghost of tom joad: supernatural castieljanie_tangerine on August 3rd, 2009 10:05 am (UTC)

2: ECCOME! ;)
3: ha, mezza giusta e mezza no. ;) I miei tre storici sono John, Ash e Cas ma Dean è quello che è rimasto stabile.. NON CHE SAM NON LO AMI EH XD ma non potevo mettere cinque risposte fattibili XD
8 Per quanto all'inizio Clive mi piacesse, da metà in giù ho perso la testa per Alec. ;)
9. ECCO XD Richelieu lo amo ma ATHOS = RISPOSTA GIUSTA.
13. Frank, ma Brad lo amo lo stesso. ;)
14. Giuste tutte e due XD la nuova trilogia tendo a scordarmela ma per quanto riguarda quella assolutamente Obi-Wan, ma per quanto riguarda quella seria/vecchia HAN SOLO ASSOLUTAMENTE.
Fangirlage like WHOA.: FF // OTPs - Noy ha neehopelessfangirl on August 4th, 2009 06:51 pm (UTC)
I had a hard time initially picking a favourite Firefly character, too. Actually, I had a couple favourites, but I find even now, a good two years or so since I first watched it, my favourite character still changes. They're all so loveable. ♥ Except, yeah, Jayne is a jerk, but you take him with a grain of salt and he's a loveable jerk. ;) My favourite usually alternates between River or Mal or Simon or Kaylee. I assume you're saving the movie till the end, yes? Serenity is GREAT. ♥ ♥ ♥

For the meme:
Lost = Boone
SPN = John, Dean and... Cas?
FNL = Jason. Or Tim. *debates*
SFU = ...David?
Watchmen = Rorschach? Shit, I can't remember.

LOL, except for Lost and 2/3 of SPN, I think I failed at those guesses. =P
the female ghost of tom joad: fireflyjanie_tangerine on August 4th, 2009 06:56 pm (UTC)
... Actually you had them all right XDD Lost is Boone, SPN is John, Ash, Cas + Dean as my always trustful second favorite character which never changes but the three you had were all right, FNL is Jason all the way, SFU is indeed David and Watchmen is Rorschach. You didn't fail at all!

I think I decided that my favorite is Mal but I might change idea, they're all so great. Kaylee is just adorable! And I love Simon too, he should be my favorite seeing my patterns but for once I'm going with the dark main character :P

I think I did warm up to Jayne in the end. He is the kind of lovable jerk indeed, lol. And yeah, I'm watching the movie when I'm done with the series, which will probably be before the end of the week.
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the awkward young shadow: nite owl IIgwape on August 4th, 2009 07:11 pm (UTC)
If I guess by now it would be cheating but YAY for your fandoms! <3 I would have no idea where to even start guessing with Watchmen.
the female ghost of tom joad: watchmenjanie_tangerine on August 4th, 2009 10:44 pm (UTC)
Hee, yay fandoms indeed!!!

And ha, Watchmen = me not being original. I was all 'OMG COMEDIAN YES JDM' when I went to see the movie, got out like 'RORSCHAAAAAACH ;___;' and then I ship him and Dan so they're my two faves now. I like Rory better, but he's a complete break from my standards. But he's so interesting. *loves*
valhalla37valhalla37 on August 5th, 2009 02:16 pm (UTC)
I'm going to try this as blindly as I did with elliotsmelliot ... eek!

1. Eddie
2. DUH, Boone
3. Dean
7. Eowyn, or Faramir
11. Ned
12. Riftraft (I dunno)
13. Again, no clue ... Rorschach?
14. I don't even know, but I hope it's Han Solo, because he clearly > everyone else.
15. Gaaah, I can't remember anyone's names ... the sassy performing artist? Roger?
the female ghost of tom joad: yay!janie_tangerine on August 5th, 2009 04:19 pm (UTC)
And by trying blindly you totally got them! ;)

Eddie is totally correct, Boone is totally correct, Dean is probably my constant since my favorites that I've switched were John, Ash and Castiel but Dean always was the one which never changed positions, Faramir is the right one but Eowyn is the second, RHPS was Frank but I love Riffraff too, Rorschach is totally correct, HAN SOLO is correct indeed (he DEFINITELY pwns everyone else) and YES! ROGER! When in doubt, always say the musician.