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03 March 2010 @ 01:08 pm
Lost 6x06 'Sundown'  
Team the Other Others Of The Lost Temple Of Doom

1. ARGH, NO, NO, NO. NO AND NO.

If you didn't guess, Sayid going darkside = NOT pleasing me at all. *headdesk* Is that possible that when I like someone either they die or they get metaphorically killed? Now what am I supposed to think? Can I assume that there's still hope that he's going to lose the craziness and redeem himself or is he really gone for good?

Because if it's the case, er, I have this idea that when the show ends my favorite living character will be Jack. Which is not too surprising considering yours truly, but still. What's-this-fuckery.

I just, ARGH.

2. Goes unsaid that I'm on team Jacob/sane. Or at least, I wish I could be where Sayid is because in theory he is my favorite character, but I wouldn't want to root for f!Locke, so while it's not like Jacob is this shiny trustful thing either I'll stick with sane. At least there are Richard, Jack, Sun, FRANK and apparently Miles. Oh, and Hurley.

3. Best part of the ep: FRANK LAPIDUS TO THE RESCUE!

(ILANA WHO? Was there anyone else?) Mm. That man is hot. *licks lips* Also yay Sun even if she had one line and YAY MILES FOR HAVING MORE THAN TWO LINES EACH EP AND PWNING KATE.

4. Kate speaking: I would not want to be her. Watch your back. Seriously, watch your back.

5. Claire is creepy.

I want Rousseau back. Thanks. I mean. Really. Thanks.

6. F!Locke is making me miss regular Locke like crazy.

This said by someone who has been done with Locke for at least two seasons, and I've had problems with him for a lot longer than that. Argh. WHY, dammit, WHY. I'm not liking where this is going. :/

7. No Richard = fail. No Sawyer = fail. No Jin = fail. No Jack = faaail. Though I hope that Sawyer just stayed behind with Jin to keep him company at camp crazy and that they decided to run away as fast as they could.

8. I won't miss Dogen. I'll admit I might miss John Lennon. Idk why but he amused the hell out of me. Anyway I doubt that we've seen the last of them.

9. I didn't get that whole scene with Sayid and Dogen. Wtf did his whole sad life history with the fact that he couldn't/wouldn't kill Sayid on his own? Also damn, if he was the thing keeping Smokey out, WHY NOT SAYING IT BEFORE? Jesus, I always run along with this show's nonsense because it wouldn't be Lost if it wasn't nonsensical, but this whole keeping secrets shit just for surprise value is starting to be completely unrealistic. Arrrgh.

10. Everything I have to say about the Sayid shebang is at point 1, but well. Naveen looked SO PRETTY. *wants to eat him up* Even though srsly, mindfucking much?

11. Okay, my crack theory of the week: after f!Locke took the knife out of his heart, I maintain that he and Jacob are angels searching for their true vessel. COME ON, SPN PEOPLE. I KNOW YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT CASTIEL AND HIS EXCEPTIONAL KINFE-SURVIVING SKILLS.

12. I still think that this shit is going to end more or less like the Dark Tower. Maybe one day I'll write down that theory, maybe before the show ends.

Team CTRL + ALT + CANC

13. As soon as Keamy showed up all I could think about was that I wanted Captain Hotass too.

Clearly it wasn't the case.

14. Sayid = ;_________; damn, can't this guy redeem himself at least in ONE universe?

15. So Nadia married his brother? Aha. Wasn't expecting that, but still.

16. They were precious though. Even if the not deserving business? Ye-ah. Again. Sayid, up with the self-esteem a bit?

17. Jin in the refrigerator was cool. Point is: how the fuck did he end there from having trouble at the customs? O_O

18. Needs more Desmond. WHERE THE FUCK IS DESMOND DAMMIT.

19. Nice flash of Jack in the hospital. Yay!

20. Not related to the plot, but Sayid being a bamf and kicking people for more than one minute = YES PLEASE.

21. I sort of wish I had something more insightful to say but I don't. I'm just deeply in denial.

Things that worry me

22. I'm liking Ben. Idk if it's because I'm taking him in small doses but his exchange with Sayid there was LOLsome and I like that since this whole season started he can't do the evil mastermind anymore. Even if now I'm sure it'll turn out that he's a good guy after all and I'll be like DAMN NO, NO, AND NO because that's just fucking with three seasons and a half's worth of material, but still, I can't even say he's my least favorite character anymore. This whole deal confuses me. A lot.

23. I said it before, but right now I'd pay to have early S5 Locke back, which btw is my least favorite era of Locke in the history of ever after episode 1x21. F!Locke is grating on my nerves so much I can't even say.

24. It's ten episodes left and I don't have an idea about how they're going to wrap this up. Or well, I do have one but I hoped they'd end it with all the surviving people being on one side again and having at least half a season of ensemble show the way it used to be and it's not looking like it's going to happen. Argh, I don't want to be negative but... dnw.

Just because:

25. DEAR ALT, GIVE ME SOME BOONE, PLEASE.

26. SOMEONE GIVE ME SOME DESMOND, ALT OR NOT.

27. That's it.

Argh, it's not even that I didn't like it because on some level I DID like it, some, but... argh. That ending just completely made me want to headdesk. Please, next ep, restore my faith.

Well, I've seen a couple of promo pics which while not restoring my faith have made me very, very happy on a pure eyecandy level.

And now I'll go cooking myself something and editing fic I should have edited and sent two days ago.
 
 
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bold_seer: julietbold_seer on March 3rd, 2010 12:40 pm (UTC)
No Richard = fail. No Sawyer = fail. <- This. Although, I'm not sure I like what Sawyer is up to.

COME ON, SPN PEOPLE. I KNOW YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT CASTIEL AND HIS EXCEPTIONAL KINFE-SURVIVING SKILLS.

AHAHAH! I think you need to have an everything relates to SPN tag, too - y/y?

So Nadia married his brother? Aha. Wasn't expecting that, but still.

:/ I was so invested in that ship.

...

In S1.

It's ten episodes left and I don't have an idea about how they're going to wrap this up.

:/

I want to see alt!Des. And not just in a cameo role.
the female ghost of tom joad: lost/spn crossoverjanie_tangerine on March 3rd, 2010 12:46 pm (UTC)
Buaha, look at my tags now. ;) ;)

I maintain that Sawyer and Jin eloped and ran away together because they're too smart for this shit.

I hope. :///////

Yeah. I so was too. Oops. Though I was sorta invested in Shannon/Sayid too. YEAH. Right. *sigh*

:///

YES ME TOO. WHYYYY. DESMOND. WHY. COME BACK, DAMMIT. Sometimes I wish they hadn't reunited him with Penny in S4 because he'd be much more around otherwise. Oops.
bold_seer: that jacob guybold_seer on March 3rd, 2010 12:58 pm (UTC)
Then we are lj tag twins, too. ;) But not identical, because I was lazy and spelt it SPN. ;)

I kinda sorta was, as well. They were cute, you know.

Actually, you are so right, because S4 was quite okay. S5 is when everything went to, well, hell. *needs a trench-coat-wearing angel to grip the-show-that-used-to-be-a-Show tight and raise it from Perdition*
the female ghost of tom joad: lost richardjanie_tangerine on March 3rd, 2010 01:06 pm (UTC)
Heee, awesome! <3

S4 was mostly good, excluding the Danielle debacle. S5 was blah imo. And ha, y'know what, WE NEED MISHA TO LAND SOME MINOR ROLE IN THE ALT. That'd be SO AWESOME.
Lou: Lost - Bengottalovev on March 3rd, 2010 02:43 pm (UTC)
it is disappointing to see Sayid lose his fight with turning darkside. I am an optimist by nature though, so I dare to still hope he could fight it. maybe not on the Island, he went very far, but maybe in the alt!universe there is still a chance.

I found Clare really creepy too. she pulls it off a lot more effectively than I ever thought she could! jeez. as you say, Kate better watch it!

if your favorite was Frank to the rescue, mine was Miles pwning Kate. I was cheering so frigging much. LOL! and yes, seriously, Ben's face was PRICELESS.
the female ghost of tom joad: lost -> generaljanie_tangerine on March 3rd, 2010 06:20 pm (UTC)
Yeah, DNW that. :(( Okay, since I'm an optimist too... FUCK THIS, I'M OPTIMIST WITH YOU. I hope too, and as long as he doesn't relent SOMEWHERE I can be okay with it.

Claire IS creepy indeed! Even though the more she does it the more I miss Danielle, but it's probably just me. I liked Danielle way too much, lol. And yes, Kate needs to either run or watch it because otherwise? I wouldn't want to be her.

Miles pwning Kate was AWESOME, but right now my love goes with team Frank, lol. I like that man way too much. AND I WAS CHEERING THERE TOO! Ben has been very priceless lately. The fact that I think that should be frightening enough, lol.
elliotsmelliot: Sayidelliotsmelliot on March 3rd, 2010 03:11 pm (UTC)
Team CTRL + ALT + CANC

Hee! I love your contextualizations!

This episode entertained me, simply because things happened, and pirate Others died (and so did Keamy), and Miles didn't, and Frank appeared, Illana was useful, and the was no triangle bullshit. Still poor Sayid had to ride the doom bus in every universe and that is hard to watch.

I agree that Ben is becoming more likeable, if only because there are more villaneous/annoying creatues around. But I think there is also some retconning going on. Like why is he on board with saving Losties like Sayid of all people? Why is he not sneaking in the Temple 'safe room' and saving his own ass.

Oooh, I like the sounds of eye candy!

ETA - Yes, I want Captain Hotass. I thought he was going to be the one in the fridge and he would say 'Good morning to Sayid."

Edited at 2010-03-03 03:17 pm (UTC)
the female ghost of tom joad: lost sayid *g*janie_tangerine on March 3rd, 2010 05:07 pm (UTC)
That remains CTRL + ALT + CANC forever, for all I'm concerned. ;)

I guess it wasn't a bad episode. I just was hoping for Sayid not to go darkside all the time and when it happened I just started losing optimism, ha. Though yeah, you're totally right about all the points (and ha, if Keamy dies I'll never complain. He can die as much as needed. ;) ). ESPECIALLY FRANK and Ilana doing something, at least.

Yeah, he's acting kind of OOC. Maybe killing Jacob just blocked his mindfucking mechanism and now he's just going with the flow mainly because at least Frank and Ilana have a couple of guns and he's better off with them than on his own? Still, if he's on team Jacob it means I'm on team Ben and that surprises me. A lot.

The eye candy includes a lot of Richard. If you're interested I could give you a link? It's very pretty pictures and unless Richard having a scene with a character is spoilery they really don't say much.

I was so sure he was in the room too! I'll admit that poor Jin in there disappointed me a bit, ha. If there had been Hotass I'd have forgiven them everything, or mostly everything. ;)
elliotsmelliot: alpert faceelliotsmelliot on March 3rd, 2010 05:36 pm (UTC)
I kindly accept your link to said eye candy.
the female ghost of tom joad: lost richardjanie_tangerine on March 3rd, 2010 05:49 pm (UTC)
One, two, three, four, five, six and seven. Pretty. Very.

Edited at 2010-03-03 05:51 pm (UTC)
elliotsmelliot: Ben lesson planelliotsmelliot on March 3rd, 2010 05:54 pm (UTC)
Thank you! Very nice indeed. I'm intrigued by the episode title too.
the female ghost of tom joad: lost boone I'M BACK BITCHESjanie_tangerine on March 3rd, 2010 05:56 pm (UTC)
I'm surprisingly more excited for next week than I was for this one. Well, it promises eyecandy and teacher Ben's adventures, so... *crosses fingers* Also damn your icon is hilarious.
Claire: [Lost] Jack's the real leaderinluv4evr on March 3rd, 2010 03:29 pm (UTC)
Sayiiiiiiiiiiid :'(

It felt like he died last night. And in a way he did, I suppose.
the female ghost of tom joad: approvedjanie_tangerine on March 3rd, 2010 05:13 pm (UTC)
:((((((

Can I be in denial? Can I? Because... don't want. Ever. :(((
Claire: [Lost] final castinluv4evr on March 3rd, 2010 05:20 pm (UTC)
I need a Sayid icon :(
Janice: sayidjaydblu on March 3rd, 2010 04:30 pm (UTC)
If you didn't guess, Sayid going darkside = NOT pleasing me at all.
Me either. But I guess, it was already in there. Plus if he's killing people in the Sideways (still!) and on the island, we have to face the fact that he means well, but he just can't help himself. I still love him, however. :)

7. No Richard = fail. No Sawyer = fail. No Jin = fail. No Jack = faaail. Though I hope that Sawyer just stayed behind with Jin to keep him company at camp crazy and that they decided to run away as fast as they could
That would be pretty sweet, right? But... :( I am concerned.

I was glued to this episode. Drinking wine while watching it makes it so much more exciting, but I'm pretty sure I would have liked the epi anyway. Just relaxed and enjoyed! ;)


the female ghost of tom joad: approvedjanie_tangerine on March 3rd, 2010 06:18 pm (UTC)
Yeah, you're right, it was there. I just had spent five seasons hoping he'd overcome it in the end, so... I still love him anyway too, I just wouldn't want him dead for good. Because at this point he kind of is and... DNW. I'm too invested to just accept it, lol.

Yes, that'd be sweet indeed! ;) But well, I doubt that Sawyer is in danger if he's with f!Locke at the moment. And Jin was smart enough when he was with Claire, so.. *crosses fingers*

Oh, I was too until the ending. That just made me want to cry, lol. ;) I probably am not as detached as I wish I was. ;)
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the female ghost of tom joad: lost jack/sayid *g*janie_tangerine on March 5th, 2010 09:31 am (UTC)
Keamy needs to die whenever it's possible. Sorry, I'm still not over a) Danielle, b) Alex, c) Captain Hotass. è_é

Flocke is just... argh. dnw. dnw. dnw. I didn't mind Nadia but I can see your point.

It's been too frigging much. :((

YES IT WAS TOO LIMITED. And ha, welcome on the doom ships ship, even if I'm not resigned that it's over. Not until Sayid's body is around, lol.
Allie: Hopealliecat8 on March 3rd, 2010 09:23 pm (UTC)
Can I assume that there's still hope that he's going to lose the craziness and redeem himself or is he really gone for good?

Well, I am the eternal optimist, so I say there is always hope.

I think that a very changed Jack will still be alive at the end, and he'll be my favorite character. This is surprisingly not surprising since he was my favorite character right at the start, then I hated him with a dark raging passion when I began to love Sawyer, then I learned about slash and he was in my good graces again. Now I feel so much sympathy for him, and I relate to and feel protective of his psyche so much, that nothing can make me hate him. I hope.

Yes, Kate, watch your back, since you have no one to do it for you. Claire is crazy and creepy and possibly evil, and though she was all set to be friends when she first saw Kate, when she learned that Kate had raised Aaron the look she gave her was pure hatred. If Claire has any say in it, Kate is doomed.

I will miss Weird Al/John Lennon! Did Sayid really have to kill him?

I'm not an SPN person, but I do think that Jacob and Esau are spirits of some kind looking for their true vessel. That's why they keep bringing people to the island and making lists of possibilities. I'm afraid in a way, and hopeful in a way, that they'll find their perfect fits among the Losties. I don't think that Flock is Esau's final choice.

Point is: how the fuck did he end there from having trouble at the customs?

Maybe the customs people were corrupted by Keamy? He seems pretty persuasive, with his eggs and all. ;)

I could say some negative things about the show's ending and how perhaps everyone but whoever Jacob and Esau are inhabiting will be either dead or gone; or the bomb worked and the island sank and they all lived their lives, happy or not, in the alt!universe, but these alt!people are practically strangers to us. That would not work for me. Instead, I'll say that a Course Correction will happen and the dead will live again and the sinners will be redeemed, and they'll go on to live productive lives, whether on or off the island. Hope springs eternal.
the female ghost of tom joad: lost sawyer *g*janie_tangerine on March 5th, 2010 09:44 am (UTC)
I'll be optimist with you. *tries to* I really want to, it's that this just was... argh. I thought I didn't care enough to be pissed if they did it but in the end I did.

Ha, I always liked Jack and steadily, but considering that I had at least three people I squeed about a lot more if it ends up with him being my favorite character it'd be surprising indeed, for me at least. Not that I'd mind, I'm perfectly okay with it. ;) I can't hate Jack either. I said it enough times but he bought me with Do No Harm, I'll forever love him at least for that.

If Kate doesn't pay attention she's pretty much toast and right now I sort of don't even want that even if she's far from my favorite character. But right now she's the only not crazy one in team crazy, so.. ://

I'll miss Weird Lennon too! :/ Yeah, he was fun. And entertaining.

LOL, the whole spirit looking for their vessel thing? Exactly what's happening in SPN this year. The whole thing makes me want to laugh until tomorrow. And I damn well hope that Flocke isn't the final one, I can't see that guy wearing Locke anymore. Though well, I don't want to see any of them wearing any Lostie, especially because I liked their original faces well enough. ;)

Yeah, probably. HE COOKED EGGS FOR ALL PEOPLE AT CUSTOMS, YO. ;)

I like your hopeful resolution. -nod- My theory is kinda like that but with some differences, but let's hope it just doesn't end too bad. ARGH. :/
the awkward young shadow: otpgwape on March 4th, 2010 02:59 am (UTC)
I really hope Sayid ends up having this big ~REDEEMING MOMENT~ in the series because otherwise his life is really, really sad.

Jack's always been my favorite and I think he will end up being my favorite still by the time it's all over. Yay for that?

I WANT BOONE AND RICHARD AND DESMOND. AND JACK FOR MORE THAN THREE SECONDS.

I LOLed at Keamy being so proud of his eggs.

Team Jacob >>>>> Team Smokey

I hope Jack/Sayid isn't forever gone. DDDD=
the female ghost of tom joad: lost jinjanie_tangerine on March 5th, 2010 09:28 am (UTC)
Sayid NEEDS HIS REDEEMING MOMENT ARGH. WHY THAT. WHYYYYY. *whines without shame*

Ha, Jack always was someone I always liked but in S1? I'd have never predicted that it'd end up with him being my favorite character. Which could bloody well happen at this point. Yay? ;)

YES I WANT THE THREE OF THEM. I think Richard is back next week, at least, though. :/

INDEED. JACOB OWNS.

Yeah. Me too. :(((((((((((((((
diandrahollmandiandrahollman on March 4th, 2010 06:20 pm (UTC)
Is that possible that when I like someone either they die or they get metaphorically killed? Now what am I supposed to think?

It's all your fault. ;P

This said by someone who has been done with Locke for at least two seasons, and I've had problems with him for a lot longer than that. Argh. WHY, dammit, WHY. I'm not liking where this is going. :/

Yeah, just...yeah. Word. Though you have to admit this makes him a bit more interesting.

Re: Dogen (I still prefer calling him Yoko) and secrets = maybe if everybody had known he was the only thing keeping Smokey out somebody would have tried to kill him sooner? Maybe not...

how the fuck did he end there from having trouble at the customs?

EXACTLY!
the female ghost of tom joad: lost jack/sawyerjanie_tangerine on March 5th, 2010 09:26 am (UTC)
Eeeeh, I like doomed people, lol. ;)

Yeah, but the point is that he isn't Locke anymore either. *sigh* As much as I came to dislike the character it still was better than THE SMOKE MONSTER, argh. =_=

Yoko IS THE BEST NICKNAME EVER LOLOL. And yeah, THAT. Tell shit, you idiot. If people know maybe they would act accordingly?

That's something I really want to know... *waits for Sun/Jin ep*
halfdutch: Boone by heartoutofstonehalfdutch on March 5th, 2010 06:05 am (UTC)
Lost was uhappymaking. :-( Needs more Boone! Less Jacob & Smokey! As for Sayid... *sigh*

But here's something that you'll like: http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/the-vampire-diaries-why-it-might-be-tvs-most-addictive-show--1034
the female ghost of tom joad: lost boone I'M BACK BITCHESjanie_tangerine on March 5th, 2010 09:25 am (UTC)
Oh, I loved that article!! Especially what they said about point one, lol. ;)

And yeah. It was. :(((( Arrgh, I'll get over it. Eventually. And yes, MORE BOONE!
valhalla37valhalla37 on March 8th, 2010 02:11 am (UTC)
God I love your reviews, seriously. :D

I very heartily second the call for Desmond! WTF! That 30-second appearance in the premiere was not enough. And I agree with the Sayid self-redemption thing. I guess I like that there's been consistency there, and I can see how it's a big motivator in terms of character development, but the alt stuff also made me want to be like, "Dude! Give yourself a break!" How much self-imposed misery does he have to go through to make up for what he's done?

PS: I checked into the e-mail thing, and unfortunately he think he lost it when he moved about four years ago, so he's not even using the same e-mail address himself. Booooooo. ):
the female ghost of tom joad: ILUjanie_tangerine on March 8th, 2010 10:28 pm (UTC)
Heee, thank you! I aim to amuse. :D

DESMOND, DAMN IT! I read some spoilers where they said he WILL show up, but seriously? It can't be too early. WHERE IS DESMOND? ;_; and then I'm surprised if my favorite character remains Jack, I haven't seen Desmond's face in months. :/// And yeah, the whole Sayid thing is consistent but it's just so depressing, seriously. One would hope that one would get ONE chance at redemption, right?

And aw, no problem! And thank you and him anyway, that was awesome enough that you offered in the first place. ;)