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15 April 2012 @ 10:26 pm
game of thrones 2x02 extremely late review + other things  
1. So, I had actually watched that ep when it leaked, then I figured I'd wait for the actual airing moment to review it and then it was Easter and I didn't, but since I have ~feelings~ about it and tonight's episode will give me EVEN MORE (everyone who read the books and saw the preview knows why) I'll just go over the main things here.

- First things first: Theon, you're going to kill me. KILL ME. I swear it took me ten minutes to watch the scene when he spoke with his dad and found out that Asha was Asha (sorry, I refuse to refer to her as Yara) because I just couldn't see it straight without feeling physical pain. I think I might be a trifle too invested. if they get to adapt ADWD it'll take me the entire week to watch the episode But seriously, I felt so bad for him I couldn't even. And HIS FACE when he understood that the war he had to go to was against ROBB and not against the throne - gosh, I couldn't. I COULDN'T. His poor dejected deluded face. (Fine, fine, he can be a dick as much as you want but he didn't deserve that.) Other than that, I think I developed a crush on Alfie Allen the size of Joffrey's ego. That scene with the captain's daughter should have probably troubled me a lot more considering how he was treating her, but a) I've known that since I read ACOK and b) the moment the guy took off his shirt my brain went into short circuit. He's not even my usual type but gosh, I was seriously needing a fan there. Okay, that was probably TMI but damn, HE'S GOOD LOOKING OKAY, I'm allowed to lurk.

- The actress playing Asha is a thing of beauty, except for the character re-name. Oh, what a troll. Her delivery was just so perfect, I couldn't. And 'you're the one in skirts', lol. I love that woman okay. Even if I still felt so horrible for Theon I couldn't even. The guy playing Balon is spot-on too, if by spot-on it means that I want to strangle him as much as his canon counterpart.

- THEON ;________________________________;

- On to different things or this post is going to be the feast of my Theon feelings. Sooo, uh, am I the only person who totally wasn't surprised that Stannis and Melisandre were doing it at the end? I mean, idk but it seemed to me that it was heavily implied that they were in fact doing it (also if she had to birth him a child and for book readers, you know what I mean, how was she going to conceive it?). I expected it to be more of a dutiful thing and less of a seduction, but I can work with it.

- Salladhor Saan was awesome (and when he was like 'I haven't tried to fuck you' to Matthos - oh dear xDD). DAVOS HAVE MY HEART, YOU FLAWLESS THING.

- Speaking about Davos and possible canonical divergences (POSSIBLE BOOK SPOILERS SO LOOK AWAY IN CASE): I'm finding really interesting the fact that they made him the resident Dragonstone atheist instead of Stannis or along with him - or at least, in the book I clearly remember that Davos was a Seven worshipper (though not of the too zealous kind) while Stannis said clearly that he didn't believe in gods and the only reason he trusted Mel was power, not the religious aspect. (Not that this Stannis might not share the same ideas, but we don't know that yet. Also I'll admit that the above referenced conversation made book!Stannis gain points with me, but hey, you have to stick a little with your lot.) Actually, I'm half-sure that the speech Davos gave his son in this episode was very similar to the one Stannis gave him in the book, which makes me very interested in seeing where this all ends. It does make sense for Davos to be the resident atheist anyway, given his life experiences and his personality it could have gone either way, but now I'm doubly interested to see how it plays out. Especially if they kept Stannis the way he was in the book. But that said: Davos being like 'well, you know what, if I have to have a god that one is STANNIS' after not denying that he was in love with him after his pirate friend implied it was pretty much the end of subtext. Okay, yes, I know, shipper goggles, but come on.

- Still talking about stuff they changed: poor Rakharo. That was one I wasn't expecting to bite it, since he didn't in the books, but if they wanted to deliver some drama they made it.

- I'm kind of ashamed to admit that the second Littlefinger and Ros showed up my brain totally checked out, and then checked in again at the end of that talk and realized it was actually important, but I have no idea what was said in it. Ooops. Will have to re-watch.

- ARYA. ARYA. ARYAAAA. I HAD FORGOTTEN HOW MUCH I LOVED YOUR ACOK STORY and how adorable you and Gendry are and IT WAS PERFECT. Also, Yoren = proof that the Night's Watch >>>>> the world, except for the wildlings and possibly the Martells. And omg the guy playing Jaq'en (or how the hell is written) looks great. But no seriously WHEN SHE TOLD GENDRY HER REAL NAME. I just - kids, grow up and marry in 3, 2, 1.

- TEAM NIGHT'S WATCH IS BETTER THAN YOU: Sam being like 'I can't ~steal~ her, she's not a goat' was pretty much the best thing ever after Jon's face when he went and happily was like 'hey Jon, this is Gilly, can we bring her along?'. Oh Jon. And Jon being like 'oh so you'll deliver her kid' and Sam being like 'well, I ~read~ about it' were just - those two, stay bffs forever, and Jon stay broody forever. Also heee Ghost likes Sam! And Gilly is too adorable, awwww. The actress is totally perfect for her. Also OUCH THE ENDING. Jon, obviously Craster has an eye on you. Your curls were too mesmerizing. Only quibble: I saw the guy playing Dolorus Edd in there so just start giving him priceless negative lines, you can't cast me Dolorus Edd without his life philosophy being stated out loud.

That said Sam is the best. End of story.

- Tyrion owning Janos Slynt aka Most Darned Annoying Person In Those Series After Alliser Thorne was good for my well-being. (Also the more Bronn the better.) I remember that I had stuff to say about Cersei too when I watched it first, but I'm afraid that I can't recall right now. Not that basically I haven't spent most of this episode being like ~THEOON~ anyway except when Davos or Arya were on, so I should probably re-watch it for fairness towards the other people. Possibly skipping the Pyke scenes because I can't physically take them. I'm too invested. and I picked the worst storyline to be invested in - I'm a genius And with that, Peter Dinklage, just stay flawless.

- THEON. ;______; how much for coherent thinking, huh? (I had also forgotten the wailing noise I might have made when he mentioned Robb and daddy went crazy, but what would you expect from me.)

Also no, wait: you know what killed me? When Balon told him something like 'your sister knows who she is - and DO YOU?', which - okay. If it was tv only dialogue (and I'm 99% certain that it was - if it had been in the book it wouldn't have taken me so long to realize what was the deal with Theon's issues), then let me bow to whoever wrote it. Seriously. I can't go and say why because I'd end up spoiling everyone majorly, but whoever has gotten to a certain point has probably already understood why I might have cried bitter tears the moment it was said. Show, stop foreshadowing things that have made me cry bitter tears once already.

- The lack of Robb was sad, but then again I'll have plenty very soon so I can be satisfied with what I got.

- Also, see you tomorrow for what is going to become my new favorite episode. Or at least, I've been here waiting like a drug addict for the main thing that happens in tomorrow's episode, so allow me to be excited.

This show is going to kill me.

Slightly related: I found out that the HBO shop only ships to US/Canada/UK/Ireland. ... and they had this shirt I really wanted. ;_______; sigh.

2. Easter was absolutely non-eventful. I went to grandparents' and the only news is that apparently my now ten-year-old cousin (UGH, WHEN DID HE BECOME TEN? I FEEL SO OLD) decided that I'm cool enough to interact with. It only reinforces my belief that I can't interact with kids younger than ten, but from then onward it might be not entirely a disaster. The weather since then has been abysmal though. I was so ready for winter to be over.. obviously winter is coming instead

3. In university news, the class I'm attending where it's just me and the professor (seriously) is apparently moving to his office. And we're at the point where we swapped numbers because if he can't go it's ridiculous that I would, and viceversa. It's so awkward, I can't. For the rest, I have one class I moderately care for (but not much), one that is killing my soul and another which is made of professor trying to teach people to speak in English. And I totally don't need to actually attend but it's obligatory. For the last semester that I'll attend (though I'll probably end up taking a couple classes next fall, considering how things are...) it's been so lackluster, ew. Not being able to pick your subjects does a lot in making you wonder what you're even doing.

4. This entry is sadly lacking non-GOT related comments, so since there have been some new friendings lately and this meme looked lovely, I stole it from pann_cake:

A - Age: 23

B - Bed size: uh, I think it's a queen? I mean, it's larger than a single but smaller than a proper double.

C - Chore you hate: cooking. I'm not naturally good at it and I get wrong everything more complicated than basic pasta, and it gets me endlessly frustrated.

D - Dog's name: I don't have one. But I'd get a cat if I could.

E - Essential start your day item: coffee. COFFEE. CAFFEINE. *is an addict*

F - Favourite colours: pink, black, lilac, red and orange. Not exactly coherent, but eeh.

G - Gold or Silver: silver, but gold can work too.

H - Height: errr 1.65 meters even if everyone says I look taller.

I - Instruments you play: abysmal bass guitar player. I used to know how to play basic piano but I probably forgot it.

J - Job title: haha, philosophy student. I used to be a librarian for the uni library, but this year I didn't have the credentials to apply.

K - Kid(s): None.

L - Living arrangements: with parents because in this country you can be a student living on your own just if your parents pay your rent or if you have a job, and if you have a job it takes you thrice the time to graduate.

M - Major weakness:

N - Nicknames: all my RL nicknames are things of ugliness.

O - Overnight hospital stay: none, I've only been to the ER for a serious-ish thing once and it wasn't overnight.

P - Pet Peeve: bad drivers. Or generally people who drive without having had a look at the rules.

Q - Quote from a movie:

'What a filthy job!' 'It could be worse!' 'How?' 'It could be raining!' > or, this is not my favorite movie of all time but a) it's brilliant and b) it's very, very relevant, since it's basically Murphy's law in movie form.

R - Right or left handed: Right. The only thing I favor my left for is swimming, but that's it.

S - Siblings: none.

T - Time you wake up: idk, usually eight or nine AM. Depends on when I have class.

U- Underwear: pfff. It's regular and boring and either white or black.

V - Vegetable you dislike: anything in the same family as broccoli. Bleargh. Everything else I can either like or stomach, but I can't take even the smell of broccoli or cauliflower.

W - Ways you run late: I use public transport and in this city it sucks majorly.

X - X-rays you've had: er I'm sure I've had one at my back. And at my foot twice. Can't remember if I had more.

Y - Yummy food you make: .... meme, stop making fun of me. *weeps* Nothing I cook is yummy, at most it's edible. Unless you consider a fruit salad yummy, because in that case I make a mean one, but fruit salads aren't exactly ~science~.

Z - Zoo favorites: zoos make me highly uncomfortable generally, so none. I think I was the only kid in existence who hated going to the zoo, but I just dislike it a lot.

5. Drive by link: there's a GOT kink meme going on here for anyone interested.

6. With that, I'll go answer comments and try to whip up some more five acts fills. One of these days I'll start writing unprompted fic again, but it's not today.

7. And last thing: my Guinness World Record certificate just arrived! :D I'm taking pictures as soon as it isn't bent anymore. (Because obviously what do Italian post workers do when there's a DO NOT BEND written all over the package? Obviously they bend it.)

8. Okay, I'm really done. Next post will probably have fic recs as I hoarded links for a while. Now I'll go do what I said in point six and see you all tomorrow with GOT gushing.
feeling: accomplishedaccomplished
on rotation: this must be the place - trevor green
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the female ghost of tom joad: asoiaf >> jon/samjanie_tangerine on April 15th, 2012 09:36 pm (UTC)
First thing, subject me to all the capslocks you need. Capslock is GOOD! ;)


I want them to run off to the Free Cities and get married and live happily ever after. Because their love is WRIT IN THE STARS.

Methinks this should be a kink meme prompt. ;) Or at least THAT IT SHOULD EXIST BECAUSE SERIOUSLY those bits were so perfect I couldn't even.

With you on Alfie Allen. Seriously. I think that for me it's also the eyes since if I see blue eyes I'm gone, but - it's like, if looking at the single parts he wouldn't be my kind of guy but then you see HIS FACE (and everything else) and - I can't. I totally go search shamelessly for shirtless pictures of the guy, too.


I think I could watch an entire show of Wall people trolling everyone else. The Wall is clearly the best - they don't care for petty politics, they GET SHIT DONE and they'll be generally better than everyone with a few exceptions, maybe. But gosh this episode totally made me remember how much I fiercely liked Yoren.

Oh gosh don't tell me that, I've been eyeing that reincarnation prompt but I'm trying to do the five acts stuff first but it's there NAGGING AT ME. also I'd totally read 4k of Robb/Theon breathplay with creepy possessive behavior. Without regrets.
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the female ghost of tom joad: zombies are always relevantjanie_tangerine on April 15th, 2012 10:11 pm (UTC)
OMG YES YES YES LET ME LOVE IT LET ME LOVE ITTTTTT gosh I'm so glad he landed that part. Flawless casting was flawless.

... you know, that would be so freaking awesome. SO. FREAKING. AWESOME. His past would make a hell of an interesting story, that's for sure... and well yeah the Watch can't be as impartial as they say. With Arya I had gathered that it had been Ned more or less telling him to do it while they were bringing him to get judged and I'm pretty sure he was on board because of all the reasons you said but I'm pretty sure he knew perfectly about Gendry, too. And if he hadn't he'd had known when the City Watch came searching for him.

Weeell Robb is totally another possible fandom bycicle -nodnod- I tend to ship Jon with more people but Robb totally lends himself to it as well. Though well, saying that Jon is the little black dress of shipping in this fandom has a certain appeal. ;) ;)


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the female ghost of tom joad: asoiaf >> robb/theon 5.0janie_tangerine on April 15th, 2012 11:25 pm (UTC)
... oh gosh OH GOSH WHY DO YOU WANT ME TO CRY, now I need fic where they cuddle like no tomorrow and Robb isn't the little spoon too and and DAMN y'know what they should run with those other three in the Free Cities, live next door and occasionally invite them over. And viceversa.
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the female ghost of tom joad: asoiaf >> robb/theon 3.0janie_tangerine on April 16th, 2012 11:03 pm (UTC)

..... oh dear, I can't offer you my firstborn because I won't have one anytime soon but - but - ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

I can't. This is just so very delicious and oh so very perfect and that part where Robb was kissing over Theon's neck was just - I'll be here drawing hearts around this. And ngh Theon being the small spoon and catching Robb at the end and generally being so very responsive - I can't. This is just too lovely to be real. <333333
falafel_musings: thronesfalafel_musings on April 15th, 2012 09:33 pm (UTC)
I've been saying that Theon and Arya's S2 stories are the ones I'm most interested in. The second episode confirmed that for me (I love the Iron Islands! And yes I did have a lot of sympathy for Theon) I'm also loving the Tyrion-Cersei-Joffrey-Sansa-Hound-Littlefinger-Varys clusterfuck at Kings Landing. I think it's going to take me a while to feel invested in Stannis and the other new people. I love the Jon/Sam bromance still but I sometimes find it hard to concentrate on Jon and Dany's arcs since they seem so detached from the core story.

I was asking recently on my journal - do you have any good recs for fics about Theon's backstory? Since this has only been referred to in exposition dialogue it's taken me a while to make sense of his history. I'd love to see some of it written in fic form! Have you read (or written) anything about Theon being taken from the Iron Islands after the rebellion and how he adjusted to life among the Stark family (Robb/Theon is welcome!).
the female ghost of tom joad: asoiaf >> theon 2.0janie_tangerine on April 15th, 2012 09:48 pm (UTC)
Re the fics: mmmmh I need to dig around, all the Theon related stuff I've written is full of spoilers for late stuff so I can't self-rec. ;) There's this one fic I read that fit exactly your requirements (ie Theon adjusting to live with the Starks) but it was supposed to be a multi-part and the writer only ever posted chapter one. And most of the Robb/Theon stuff around deals with late GOT canon, ACOK canon and ADWD canon rather than being backstory, though now that I think about it I think I read a couple ficlets that might fit the bill. I'm going to go through my bookmarks tomorrow and get back at you on that, it won't be much but it'd be something. And errr wait a moment, how are you with French? Because I just remembered that once I tried to read this fic in French on ff.net which dealt with his arrival at Winterfell and subsequent years, but it was very late and I understood less of it than I usually would, so I can't guarantee on the quality. ;)

About the rest: well, they both have amazing arcs. Totally heartbreaking too, but definitely worth sticking with. (and gosh I'm so glad you're Theon-sympathetic, he gets ridiculous amounts of hate and at times I feel very alone. ;) ) Stannis is very hard to like, I really warmed up to him mid book three, and most of the reason why I was well-disposed was my endless love for Davos, but he does eventually win you over a bit. I like the King's Landing clusterfuck but other than that the storyline I'm most invested into hasn't shown up yet. It starts in tonight's episode though. ;) I'm finding hard to concentrate on Dany's stuff right now too, while with Jon not so much. But it's that why Dany's part isn't exactly my main priority, anything happening at the Wall/beyond it, I'm like white on rice for it. I'm biased. *cough*
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the female ghost of tom joad: asoiaf >> sansajanie_tangerine on April 15th, 2012 09:39 pm (UTC)
Lol, you know that Misha Collins guy who is in Supernatural? He organized a crazy digital scavenger hunt where he gave you a list of insane things to do (ie make websites with US candidates looking drunk and stupid quotes of them popping up or take picture of a shark-killing chair or re-do the Last Supper with action figures etcetera) and the target was getting into the Guinness. And since he had some 600 teams with ten people each (more or less) we totally ended up there and I figured I should ask for my individual certificate. ;)
The Cleaveragekel_reiley on April 16th, 2012 02:35 am (UTC)
-that Asha was Asha (sorry, I refuse to refer to her as Yara)

uh, yeah... wtf were they calling her? why? did i miss something?

I think that conversation between Davos and his son was in the book... I clearly remember him saying something about "I made it home and I never prayed" and the son saying "No, but I did."

And yes, you're the only one who was not surprised by that. I dunno why. In the book, Stannis was like... stone, to me. Or something. He didn't *do* things. With people! (Also... have they completely written out his afflicted daughter?)

ARYA/GENDRY (when she grows up) YES. Their scenes were pretty much awesome.

Imma go watch the new ep now ;)
the female ghost of tom joad: asoiaf >> team greyjoyjanie_tangerine on April 16th, 2012 06:49 am (UTC)
re Asha: they changed her name because it was too similar to Osha according tothem =____= As if Yara doesn't sound like Arya. Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh.

Mmmh I'll need to go check that part, because I'm sure that the one about all evil in the world being gods and gods never being on battlefields had been a quote of Stannis'. This deserves more attention.

... well, yeah, but in order to win the war he -had- to give Mel her shadow babies so I figured he was doing it with her as some kind of duty. Lol idk I obviously have a dirty mind. (They mentioned the wife so maybe she's off-screen?)


Me too ;)
The Cleaveragekel_reiley on April 16th, 2012 12:50 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I figured it was something like that. Am I the only one pronouncing Asha and Osha very differently?

Maybe it was a mash of 2 different conversations. I also remember Davos keeping with the 7 gods, even if he didn't consider himself religious. He at least fought to let others keep whatever gods they wanted.

ALSO. I love the actress they got to play Brienne. She is PERFECT.
C.xitsjustc on April 16th, 2012 08:31 am (UTC)
I had an evening class many years ago - Chemistry - that started out in September with about 25 students. By Christmas there were two of us. Two weeks after Christmas, I was on my own and was on my own until the exam in May!

We were the same with swapping numbers.
the female ghost of tom joad: tangerinesjanie_tangerine on April 16th, 2012 11:13 am (UTC)
Oh dear, that must have felt awkward... though at least I hope that being the only one ends up facilitating the exam. at least that.... but being the only one is just so weird.